Another religious massacre.

Originally posted by sonhouse
You can't get past the point that humans made up the rules all along.

There was no deity leading Christians, Jews or Muslims to come up with the rules they cited.

The proof of that is the fact that we have literally thousands of religions with vastly differing moral codes and cultural norms.

It is my firm belief a deity would never make up rules f ...[text shortened]... it is bad because they make money doing it) and that did not come from ANY god but from mankind.

I'm giving you the benefit of doubt...if you are right nothing changes but
the excuse, the root cause will still be there.

Originally posted by sonhouse
You can't get past the point that humans made up the rules all along.

There was no deity leading Christians, Jews or Muslims to come up with the rules they cited.

The proof of that is the fact that we have literally thousands of religions with vastly differing moral codes and cultural norms.

It is my firm belief a deity would never make up rules f ...[text shortened]... it is bad because they make money doing it) and that did not come from ANY god but from mankind.

I believe in God, and I believe in the devil.

If God and the devil are real than we are in the middle of a spiritual conflict.
You have a habit of accusing God of not being real because things are not
what you believe they should be! Your god the one you think should be
real isn't real, that I get, that does not mean God isn't real, only the one
between your ears.

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So what? Do you now expect no more beheadings?

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So now IS are the good guys? Is that what you are saying?

Originally posted by KellyJay
I believe in God, and I believe in the devil.

If God and the devil are real than we are in the middle of a spiritual conflict.
You have a habit of accusing God of not being real because things are not
what you believe they should be! Your god the one you think should be
real isn't real, that I get, that does not mean God isn't real, only the one
between your ears.

You make it sound like there are just two religions, one founded by your god, the other founded by your devil.

I hate to break it to you, I'll be gentle🙂

There are THOUSANDS of religions, each with its own set of beliefs and who it is ok to kill.

So it must be therefore there are thousands of gods and maybe thousands of devils.

All those involved in those other religions will tell you with complete sincerity THEIR religion is the REAL one, all the others are false.

Just ask DASA for instance. Just ask RJ, for instance.

You can't all be right but you sure as HELL can all be wrong.

Originally posted by sonhouse
And the sooner the better. Like I have said many times before, I want freedom FROM religion. ALL religions.

And I want freedom FROM "freedom FROM religion". Those people are more fanatical and evangelical (as well as just plain wrong) than the most outspoken theist.

Originally posted by Suzianne
And I want freedom FROM "freedom FROM religion". Those people are more fanatical and evangelical (as well as just plain wrong) than the most outspoken theist.

At least their wars are rational. Religious wars are anything but.

Non religious wars go like this: I am the biggest SOB in the valley and you go along with me or else.

Religious wars: MY god says your god is weak and pathetic and MY god told me to kill all you heretics because you are all INFIDELS.

Neither one is particularly desirable but you might be able to reason with the big SOB. You can't reason with religious fanatics.

Originally posted by Suzianne
And I want freedom FROM "freedom FROM religion". Those people are more fanatical and evangelical (as well as just plain wrong) than the most outspoken theist.

We want (for n >= 0)

(freedom FROM )^(2n+1) religion

and you want

(freedom FROM )^2n religion

It now remains to demonstrate how the 2n folk are all crazy b$tards

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Could this act of "mercy" be motivated by other factors Duchess?

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Not me for sure. Iran is the country trying to A, wipe Israel off the face of the map, in their constitution, and B is actively seeking the A bomb.

It now looks like the whole bomb deal is scuttled because the Iranians demand the end of the sanctions. I have Iranian friends, met in Ramalla, forced to leave Iran with the clothes on their backs because they were christian.

They were wealthy in Iran but you don't profess to be ANYTHING but islam there and you better be Sunni also.

Originally posted by sonhouse
You make it sound like there are just two religions, one founded by your god, the other founded by your devil.

I hate to break it to you, I'll be gentle🙂

There are THOUSANDS of religions, each with its own set of beliefs and who it is ok to kill.

So it must be therefore there are thousands of gods and maybe thousands of devils.

All those inv ...[text shortened]... ce. Just ask RJ, for instance.

You can't all be right but you sure as HELL can all be wrong.

I believe God draws people to Himself, and the devil, the world, and our
flesh are at odds with God. How that manifest itself can be seen in a
variety of ways.