Originally posted by FMF"What about twenty first century Christians? Are they permitted by God to own slaves? "
On page 14 of this Thread 150734, robbie stated that his version of God permits him to own slaves [as long as it does not break local secular law].
[b]FMF: What about twenty first century Christians? Are they permitted by God to own slaves?
robbie: If its not against the law, yes.
It came at the end of a lengthy dialogue.
Is this o ...[text shortened]... ion about the legitimacy of slavery even until this day a commonly held belief among Christians?[/b]
Are Atheist permitted to own slaves, Muslims, or anyone else?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayIt's irrelevant really as this thread has been about whether or not the bible grants Christians the right to own slaves.
"What about twenty first century Christians? Are they permitted by God to own slaves? "
Are Atheist permitted to own slaves, Muslims, or anyone else?
Kelly
For Islamic views on slavery you can look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Islam#Slavery_in_the_contemporary_Muslim_world
Atheists don't have any religious laws or beliefs that may or may not conflict with secular laws that permit or forbid slavery.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDeuteronomy 21:10-14
please demonstrate to the forum where it is written that a Christian is permitted to rape or enslave anyone - thanks in advance, your fan - Robbie.
There you go, that's both of 'em together isn't it? Incidentally, kudos for admitting your earlier error.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatThese Laws were never binding upon Christians, sowwy, please provide evidence where the Bible gives permission to Christians.
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
There you go, that's both of 'em together isn't it? Incidentally, kudos for admitting your earlier error.
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatsigh, so be it,
Please detail where in the bible it says that.
(Colossians 2:13, 14) He kindly forgave us all our trespass and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us (the mosaic law) and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.
(Romans 13:8-10) Do not you people be owing anybody a single thing, except to love one another; for he that loves his fellowman has fulfilled [the] law. For the [law code], “You must not commit adultery, You must not murder, You must not steal, You must not covet,” and whatever other commandment there is, is summed up in this word, namely, “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does not work evil to one’s neighbor therefore love is the law's fulfillment.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo you love me? 😏
sigh, so be it,
(Colossians 2:13, 14) He kindly forgave us all our trespass and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us (the mosaic law) and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.
(Romans 13:8-10) Do not you people be owing anybody a single thing, ...[text shortened]... s yourself.” Love does not work evil to one’s neighbor therefore love is the law's fulfillment.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAh, so your god changed his mind eh? Well that's cool I guess. You probably shouldn't sigh like that though, not a very neighbour-loving attitude that, but I understand what a trial we must all be to you.
sigh, so be it,
(Colossians 2:13, 14) He kindly forgave us all our trespass and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us (the mosaic law) and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.
(Romans 13:8-10) Do not you people be owing anybody a single thing, ...[text shortened]... s yourself.” Love does not work evil to one’s neighbor therefore love is the law's fulfillment.
I have to wonder why slavery isn't directly condemned in the NT, but I suppose there's a limited amount of room there, probably hard to fit in all the things you shouldn't do. Glad to hear you guys are all ok with teh gayz now though, that's a big improvement.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt is difficult to see how the law's 'fulfilment' is to show compassion to people who engage in homosexual acts when that law originally demanded that you stone them to death.
sigh, so be it,
(Colossians 2:13, 14) He kindly forgave us all our trespass and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us (the mosaic law) and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.
(Romans 13:8-10) Do not you people be owing anybody a single thing, ...[text shortened]... s yourself.” Love does not work evil to one’s neighbor therefore love is the law's fulfillment.
Even if it is clear to you, you can see why people struggle with this, surely?
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatwhat are you talking about, happy with teh gays. They have placed themselves in a position contrary to nature and contrary to God, as individuals we are under duress to demonstrate love, we are under no duress to love the things they practice. It isn't out rightly condemned because it was an accepted part of the social fabric at the time.
Ah, so your god changed his mind eh? Well that's cool I guess. You probably shouldn't sigh like that though, not a very neighbour-loving attitude that, but I understand what a trial we must all be to you.
I have to wonder why slavery isn't directly condemned in the NT, but I suppose there's a limited amount of room there, probably hard to fit in a t do. Glad to hear you guys are all ok with teh gayz now though, that's a big improvement.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderits not difficult at all, they may be shown love as people, a true Christian will never accept what they practice as being contrary to scripture and contrary to nature as I have rigorously demonstrated on these forums with reference to empirically established data.
It is difficult to see how the law's 'fulfilment' is to show compassion to people who engage in homosexual acts when that law originally demanded that you stone them to death.
Even if it is clear to you, you can see why people struggle with this, surely?