-Removed-I simply asked the question in the OP, which you didn't answer.
If I said "the prayer" many years ago, can I lose my Christianity on a daily basis, for any reason, such as adultery, stealing, etc.
If not, then you shouldn't question MY Christianity in the way you do.
***and yes, I said "the prayer".
@suzianne said@FMF said
So?
I'm thinking you're showing delusions of your own importance.
For the nth time, what you think bothers me a non-positive amount.
Nobody, aside from me, debated or discussed it with Grampy Bobby here on this debate and discussion forum which is provided for the debate and discussion of things such as these.
@suzianne said
So?
So what was - I wonder - your objective in keeping your opinion and dissent secret? To maintain the impression that nobody disagreed with Grampy Bobby's notion?
@fmf saidSimply that while I have publicly doubted my own Christianity, I have never "thrown it back".
Childlike or not, what point is it you think you are making in your own mind?
I still question everything, which is unsettling as being considered a "good Christian".
This dilemma shouldn't be mocked, in my opinion.
@chaney3 saidAsking you what your point is on this thread is not "mocking".
Simply that while I have publicly doubted my own Christianity, I have never "thrown it back".
I still question everything, which is unsettling as being considered a "good Christian".
This dilemma shouldn't be mocked, in my opinion.
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@fmf saidGo on, do tell us just what else you "wonder".
@FMF said
Nobody, aside from me, debated or discussed it with Grampy Bobby here on this debate and discussion forum which is provided for the debate and discussion of things such as these.
@suzianne said
So?
So what was - I wonder - your objective in keeping your opinion and dissent secret? To maintain the impression that nobody disagreed with Grampy Bobby's notion?
I wonder why you think I have to tell you anything, especially what I say to anyone out of this forum.
@suzianne saidIt's a public debate and discussion forum, Suzianne. Debate and discussion you claim to have had in secret has nothing to do with what is debated and discussed here. You never expressed any disagreement in public with the notion that even a person who believes in Jesus for just one second is irrevocably gifted with eternal life regardless of whether they stop believing ~ a piece of Christian doctrine Grampy Bobby explained in public and did so without any dissent from other Christians.
Go on, do tell us just what else you "wonder".
I wonder why you think I have to tell you anything, especially what I say to anyone out of this forum.
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@chaney3 saidThe question you need to ask yourself is simple, do you belong to God through
I simply asked the question in the OP, which you didn't answer.
If I said "the prayer" many years ago, can I lose my Christianity on a daily basis, for any reason, such as adultery, stealing, etc.
If not, then you shouldn't question MY Christianity in the way you do.
***and yes, I said "the prayer".
Jesus Christ? You can say a prayer, and ask Christ in, that doesn't mean you have
believed in your heart and actually have received Christ in.
Some say that prayer as a get out of jail free card, because they have no intention
of changing anything from their sinful ways over to the Lord. They get told by
someone they are saved, and they can now just live their lives as they always have
thinking all is well.
The thing about Christianity, there are more than a few warnings about our
turning away and why would there be if the danger isn't real. Struggling to turn
one's life over to the Lord is one thing, fighting the good fight isn't easy its hard.
The good news is that the struggle is for overcoming in this life. We win in Christ,
so those in Christ who are seeking Him to do His will may stumble, but they will
get back up.
Those that are not struggling to serve the Lord, if they have just decided to live in
sin and never seek the Lord they to are making choices that do not lead to the
overcoming life in Christ. The faith is centered on Jesus Christ, not "a" prayer.
@kellyjay saidIf he simply finds the notion 'Jesus is God' to be unbelievable, is there any way - through Christianity - to your way of thinking - that he can avoid being tortured by Jesus for eternity?
The question you need to ask yourself is simple, do you belong to God through
Jesus Christ? You can say a prayer, and ask Christ in, that doesn't mean you have
believed in your heart and actually have received Christ in.
Some say that prayer as a get out of jail free card, because they have no intention
of changing anything from their sinful ways over to the Lord. They ...[text shortened]... o not lead to the
overcoming life in Christ. The faith is centered on Jesus Christ, not "a" prayer.
@kellyjay saidMaybe the writers of the text wanted to scare people: hence the "warnings". The danger doesn't have to be real in order for people to write religious literature claiming it is.
The thing about Christianity, there are more than a few warnings about our
turning away and why would there be if the danger isn't real.
@fmf saidThe question is only answered by him and Jesus Christ, it isn't a check list of I do
If he simply finds the notion 'Jesus is God' to be unbelievable, is there any way - through Christianity - to your way of thinking - that he can avoid being tortured by Jesus for eternity?
believe this, I don't believe that. Its Jesus Christ alone, the Way, Truth, and Life. The
discussions on these boards rarely talk about things that matter when it comes to
Christ. We can disagree on the age of the earth, Hell, getting baptized in the name
of Jesus, or the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. What is it only going to come down to
and NOTHING else, what is your relationship with Jesus Christ? Is Jesus Christ your
Lord and Savior or not?