Originally posted by @secondsonI have never denounced the God of the Bible and I've never denounced "those who have faith in Jesus Christ". You are saying things that are quite simply untrue. You've confused me with another poster I think.
That they are not a "monolithic" and "cohesive group" of atheists promoting on a global scale a belief system that not only denies the existence of God, but denounces both the God of the Bible and those who have faith in Jesus Christ?
27 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfWhy are you saying, "that's not in dispute"?
An atheist can propagate a "message" if he or she wants. That's not in dispute.
I didn't dispute whether he or she can propagate what they want. You're going to start mischaracterizing my posts now right? I'm not going to waste my time with it.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfNot in so many words did you say "there is no God", but now you're just being ridiculous. You did say you're an atheist. What more is there for you to say?
[b][Atheists] do, and it's monolithic and cohesive with a ideological message whose central tenet is "there is no God".
I have never - not even once - never in all the countless thousands of posts I've contributed here over a decade or so of being active in this community - not once have I ever claimed: "there is no God". So, I think you're just getting me mixed up with someone else.[/b]
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonI have never claimed "there is no God". Nor have I ever thought it. You are mistaken.
Not in so many words did you say "there is no God", but now you're just being ridiculous. You did say you're an atheist. What more is there for you to say?
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondson"Atheism" does not in carry a "message". It is a lack of belief. It is not being a theist. The fact that some atheists - like Dawkins for example - try to persuade theists with their messages is not in dispute.
Why are you saying, "that's not in dispute"?
I didn't dispute whether he or she can propagate what they want. You're going to start mischaracterizing my posts now right? I'm not going to waste my time with it.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfI think you're confused. Not once in the posts I made about your OP did I say "you" about anything.
I have never denounced the God of the Bible and I've never denounced "those who have faith in Jesus Christ". You are saying things that are quite simply untrue. You've confused me with another poster I think.
You're playing word games now. I refuted your posts and buried you in your own words and now you're going to try to make this about you.
You have an agenda to undermine the Christian faith like any other atheist the world over in all times and places. Be honest and admit it.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonYou asserted that atheists "denounce both the God of the Bible and those who have faith in Jesus Christ". I don't do these things and yet I am an atheist.
I think you're confused. Not once in the posts I made about your OP did I say "you" about anything.
Originally posted by @secondsonI share my perspectives like anyone else does. This is not a 'Christian website'. How brittle your faith is or the degree to which it can be "undermined" by reading posts by people who believe different things from you, is a matter for, not for me.
You have an agenda to undermine the Christian faith like any other atheist the world over in all times and places. Be honest and admit it.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonWhat "word games"?
You're playing word games now. I refuted your posts and buried you in your own words and now you're going to try to make this about you.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfWhat utter nonsense.
"Atheism" does not in carry a "message". It is a lack of belief. It is not being a theist. The fact that some atheists - like Dawkins for example - try to persuade theists with their messages is not in dispute.
You do have a message like Dawkins, which is to promote atheism. You're trying to tell me there's no message, but that's obtuse.
Your message is there is no God and to contradict the message of God and of His message of grace and truth.
Everything you and Dawkins say is a message against God and Christ.
Stop deluding yourself.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThat's his choice. He has an ideology that motivates him to claim that there is no god or gods. But he doesn't represent "atheism".
You do have a message like Dawkins, which is to promote atheism. You're trying to tell me there's no message, but that's obtuse.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonYou are mistaken. I do not claim "there is no God". Never have. You are thinking of some other poster perhaps.
Your message is there is no God and to contradict the message of God and of His message of grace and truth.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonWell, neither Dawkins or I are Christians, if that's what you mean.
Everything you and Dawkins say is a message against God and Christ.