25 Nov '10 23:03>
What have you got? C'mon, I want my worldview shattered.
Originally posted by AgergJust assume my worldview loosely agrees with SOME new age philosohpies.
Perhaps communicate your worldview first! indeed, you often say the universe is a paradox...what does that mean?
Originally posted by karoly aczelOK, ........you and everyone else believe that everything is so important, you believe your life is important, your children are important, your job is important, your friends are important, your place of birth is important, your relatives are important, your country is important and so on and so on.
What have you got? C'mon, I want my worldview shattered.
Originally posted by karoly aczelWell there are a number of different definitions of "dualism" but assuming you mean in the following sense (wikipedia):
Just assume my worldview loosely agrees with SOME new age philosohpies.
I also am sympatheic towards bhuddists psycology/spiritualtity, especially the parts the refer to spiritualty as being something to work out for yourself (rather than witing for JC to save us, for example).
With paradox, lets just start by saying that every point that can be mad allpark" . If your thinking is dualist, then you wont understand a thing I'm trying to say.
Originally posted by vishvahetuOk, good.
OK, ........you and everyone else believe that everything is so important, you believe your life is important, your children are important, your job is important, your friends are important, your place of birth is important, your relatives are important, your country is important and so on and so on.
But all these things are dust in the wind, an illusi ...[text shortened]... s that which develops self realization of self and God, and anything else is of no importance.
Originally posted by AgergOk, there are different definitions of dualism.
Well there are a number of different definitions of "dualism" but assuming you mean in the following sense (wikipedia):
[i]"Alternatively, dualism can mean the tendency of humans to perceive and understand the world as being divided into two overarching categories. In this sense, it is dualistic when one perceives a tree as a thing separate from everything vs evil) notion of dualism that is manifest in the major religions of the world today.
Originally posted by karoly aczelCorrect.....and Iam just being in your face about it ( because you said attack), because in reality nothing apart from our spiritual welfare is important.....nothing, because what we do materially, is like clouds in the sky......there one minute, and gone the next.
Ok, good.
Lets clarify a few things and then you can continue the onslaught.
I dont believe myself, my children, job, friends and relatives are any more important than anyone elses.
Everyone is entitled to their views, (however ridiculous), I just draw the line at physical violence. If we can get beyond violence (or threats of violence), then we can ...[text shortened]... worldly things that lead to false understanding of the universe we inhabit. Something like that?
Originally posted by vishvahetuYes, be in my face about it, I actually like it. (Inpsired by none other than our illustrious josephw!)
Correct.....and Iam just being in your face about it ( because you said attack), because in reality nothing apart from our spiritual welfare is important.....nothing, because what we do materially, is like clouds in the sky......there one minute, and gone the next.
Originally posted by karoly aczelOk then, save yourself!! ๐ต
[b]Just assume my worldview loosely agrees with SOME new age philosohpies.
I also am sympatheic towards bhuddists psycology/spiritualtity, especially the parts the refer to spiritualty as being something to work out for yourself (rather than witing for JC to save us, for example).
Originally posted by whodeyI'm in the process of "saving" myself, however I dont use that terminology (saving).
Ok then, save yourself!! ๐ต
Wow, that didn't take long. ๐
Of coure, the question begs, if you can work it out for yourself then why do you need the likes of new age philosophies and such?
Originally posted by karoly aczelNo problem. Anytime you feel the need to be attacked just look me up!! ๐ต
I'm in the process of "saving" myself, however I dont use that terminology (saving).
"Divination", imo, is a good non-religocentric way of describing the process I believe you are referring to, yes?
Didn't take long? Good , thnx for your time๐
The "new age philosophies and such" are just a outer expression of my inner (largley non-verbal) life/ ...[text shortened]... e starting silly little self-indulgent threads like this one.
Thnx for the response๐
Originally posted by karoly aczelYes your right, not everyone is going to go sit on a mountain top and meditate, but like the Buddhist say.........before enlightment chop wood, and after enlightment chop wood.
Yes, be in my face about it, I actually like it. (Inpsired by none other than our illustrious josephw!)
I do beleive it is important what we do materially, even if it is cloud-like, because we can start, continue (paricipate), in life.
Having said that I do think that we should have one eye on the spiritual ramifications of our material actions. ...[text shortened]... es. Just hard-core penance with a pure heart.
One 'eye' turned inwards at all times...
Originally posted by whodeySee, thats another (apparent) paradox. The time thing. While I may be 36 or whatever, I know in another sense that I am ageless. Just because I have partial amnesia, and have been banished to this class 3-type planet for re-education, doesn't mean that I dont inherintly know that the real "me" is immminent and ageless- unaffected by time.
No problem. Anytime you feel the need to be attacked just look me up!! ๐ต
Good luck saving yourself....or whatever it is you feel you feel the need to do with what time you have left.
Originally posted by vishvahetuFirstly let me say that that whole "working without attachments" thing is so true. (sorry, could've worded that better).
Yes your right, not everyone is going to go sit on a mountain top and meditate, but like the Buddhist say.........before enlightment chop wood, and after enlightment chop wood.
Bhagavad Gita sums it up nicely:
Chpt 3. Vs 16-17-18-19
"My dear Arjuna, one who does not follow in human life cycle of sacrifice thus established by the Vedas certainly usness changes, and the outward life may still carry on the same to the casual observer.