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@sonship said

With the help of the Holy Spirit, I too, am praying and seeking that the minds of readers would be opened to understand
You think the Holy Spirit is helping you to convince readers to disobey the commandments of Christ?

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@divegeester

If you really believe all this Jesus loves me but will burn me alive for eternity if I don’t believe he exists nonsense, then you should be out in the streets of your neighbourhood preaching instead of blogging to 4 people in here who all think your a somewhat confused and narcissistic cult member.


I believe (by His mercy) that while we were enemies of God, with no thought of honoring Him, Christ died to reconcile us to God.

"But God commends His own love to us in the while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

We were in danger and didn't even know it because of the terrible sin hating righteousness of God. He died for His enemies.

"Much more then, having been justified in His blood, we will be saved through Him from the wrath." (v.9)

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Everyone should want to be saved from "the wrath".
That is the fury unleashed by a holy God against iniquity, sin, transgression, and lawlessness because of our fallen Satanified nature.

"For if we being enemies, were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more we will be saved in His life having been reconciled." (v.10)

The first reconciliation is by His death and the shedding of His blood to save us from the wrath of God.

The second reconciliation is by His resurrection life living in us saving us from the power of sin. That is "saved in His life". Saved dispositionally as well as positionally.

This is a MUCH MORE salvation in His resurrection having been saved by the blood of His death on the cross.

Faith in the blood of Jesus Christ is the way to avoid the eternal punishment. Romans 5:9 says -

"Much more, having now been justified in His blood, WE WILL BE SAVED FROM THE WRATH."

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@Rajk999

You think the Holy Spirit is helping you to convince readers to disobey the commandments of Christ?


No I think the Holy Spirit is helping all gospel heralds to cause people to have "the obedience of faith".

The first command is to have faith. That is why Acts says even some of the former enemies who had Jesus executed OBEYED the faith.

"And the word of God grew, and the number of the disciples in Jerusalem multiplied greatly, and a large number of the priests obeyed the faith." (Acts 6:7)

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Oh, Divegeester is absolutely right. I should announce to my friends in the neighborhood this good news.

He says "You should not be only here." [paraphrase]. He's right.

I am speaking to more people outside of my office these days. Praise the Lord for that.

Get yourself saved and begin to pray for your loved ones and acquaintances.
God will hear your prayers and petitions.



@sonship said
@Rajk999
You think the Holy Spirit is helping you to convince readers to disobey the commandments of Christ?


No I think the Holy Spirit is helping all gospel heralds to cause people to have "the obedience of faith".

The first command is to have faith. That is why Acts says even some of the former enemies who had Jesus executed OBEY ...[text shortened]... rusalem multiplied greatly, and a large number of the priests obeyed the faith." (Acts 6:7)
Obedience of faith. Obey the faith. Obeyed the faith
These all mean ONE THING - BELIEVE AND OBEY
Obey what? Obey the commandments of Christ.
Obey the teachings of Christ.

You preach no such thing.
You preach disobedience.
You tell people no righteousness is necessary
No good works are necessary
Because they have eternal life already and not even God can revoke that.

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I do not do this for the sake of "church leadership".

Do you EVER read without projecting the attitudes of your own soul?

Do you ever serve the Lord for the sheer joy of serving the Lord?

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This thread is about Avoid Eternal Punishment - a serious, SERIOUS subject.

How many of you think Jesus Christ Himself had within Him the fear of God?

Jesus was like us. He is God fully become a normal man. And I tell you that Jesus TAUGHT the fear of God and Jesus HAD the fear of God.

Listen to this. Listen to His heart.

"And I say to you My friends, Do not fear those who kill the body and afterward have nothing more that they can do.

But I will show you whom you should fear: fear Him who, after killing, has authority to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you fear this One." (Luke 12:4,5)


This sounds to me like the VOICE OF EXPERIENCE. He is speaking out of Himself.

What? You didn't read that upon Jesus was the Spirit of the fear of Jehovah?

"And the Spirit of Jehovah will rest upon Him,
The Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
The Spirit of counsel and might,
The Spirit of the knowledge and fear of Jehovah,

And He will delight in the fear of Jehovah . . . " (Isaiah 11:1b-3)


Do you mean the Son of God took the LEAD to have the fear of His Father?
So says the word of God. Right?




@sonship said
Get yourself saved and begin to pray for your loved ones and acquaintances. God will hear your prayers and petitions.
You have declared yourself already irrevocably "saved". Why are you implying that fellow Christian divegeester is not also already "saved", like you say you are?


@sonship said
Do you ever serve the Lord for the sheer joy of serving the Lord?
Do you exhibit "sheer joy", sonship? I get the sense that "serving the Lord", here anyway, has turned you into a gloomy, prideful misanthrope with poor interpersonal or teaching skills

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The question was:

When you talk to your church leadership about your posting this forum, how many people to you tell them are reading?


If you stop reading, for sure that will be one less person.
So see to your own reaction to read or not read.