Barriers to belief

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I find it interesting that you make claims that you are not willing to back up, and then find it comical when people doubt your claims.

People doubting my claims doesn't matter to me.

Originally posted by FMF
People doubting my claims doesn't matter to me.

Don't be surprised then if people don't believe your claims when you clearly shy away from any questions about your claims.

Originally posted by Eladar
My position is that we can never know until the end. Wait for the end of the race and allow God to make the call.

So no one can have assurance of salvation at present, they should just wait and see at the end?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Don't be surprised then if people don't believe your claims when you clearly shy away from any questions about your claims.

Why would I be surprised? What an odd comment.

Originally posted by FMF
Why would I be surprised? What an odd comment.

But you find it 'interesting' and 'comical', as if we should just take your word for it.

Originally posted by FMF
You don't have a perception of God? I don't think you are being truthful with me.

And this peculiar, tremulous, seemingly evasive stance is an upshot of your religion, is it?

Do have any perceptions of what the consequences of being "sinful" are?

Do you think he shouldn't be evasive about the issue? Are you the only one who is allowed to be evasive about an issue?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you think he shouldn't be evasive about the issue? Are you the only one who is allowed to be evasive about an issue?

What I just so happened to believe in past decades is neither here nor there. Eladar can be evasive about what he believes in the here and now if he wants. I'd say he clearly is. But I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Are you the only one who is allowed to be evasive about an issue?

What is it you think I have been evasive about?

Originally posted by FMF
What I just so happened to believe in past decades is neither here nor there. Eladar can be evasive about what he believes in the here and now if he wants. I'd say he clearly is. But I could be wrong.

It seems you are happy to claim your beliefs were 'real and genuine' when it suits you, as well as 'neither here nor there.'

Originally posted by FMF
What is it you think I have been evasive about?

Answering certain questions.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
It seems you are happy to claim your beliefs were 'real and genuine' when it suits you, as well as 'neither here nor there.'

But that's exactly how it is. It's not a case of "it seems" anything.

Originally posted by FMF
But that's exactly how it is. It's not a case of "it seems" anything.

If that is the way it is then it is also the way it seems it is.

The standard for responding to questions you hold over others you do not like to apply to yourself.

Originally posted by FMF
But that's exactly how it is. It's not a case of "it seems" anything.

You dodge questions but expect people to answer yours. That's exactly how it is.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You dodge questions but expect people to answer yours. That's exactly how it is.

Don't answer my questions if you don't want to. Over the last decade, I have written thousands of posts about my thoughts on Christian doctrine, both in the past and in the present. I'm just not answering yours. I've told you the reason for this numerous times over the past few weeks. You have been studiously ignoring this reason and pretending I haven't told you exactly what it is.

Originally posted by sonship
The standard for responding to questions you hold over others you do not like to apply to yourself.

I have told Fetchmyjunk exactly why I won't answer his personal questions about beliefs I no longer hold. I will answer questions about my current beliefs. If you don't want to answer questions about your current beliefs, sonship, then you don't have to. That's the standard for responding to questions I hold over myself and others. I have never once probed you on your beliefs in the past.