Originally posted by FMFNo matter how you try to spin it, you are dodging and won't admit it.
Don't answer my questions if you don't want to. Over the last decade, I have written thousands of posts about my thoughts on Christian doctrine, both in the past and in the present. I'm just not answering yours. I've told you the reason for this numerous times over the past few weeks. You have been studiously ignoring this reason and pretending I haven't told you exactly what it is.
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Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI am not the slightest bit interested in your evaluation or analysis of my 25+ years of Christian life. Not in the slightest. The fact that you don't seem to understand this makes you come across - to me, anyway - as clinically gormless [just an affectation? Or are you 'trying your best'?], and peculiarly self-absorbed.
The point is FMF doesn't even want to consider the possibility that his faith might not have been genuine, and that the way he perceives Christianity based on his previous beliefs may be totally inaccurate.
What on earth makes you think I am interested in whether you think my Christian beliefs were "totally accurate" or "totally inaccurate", or whether you think they were "genuine"?
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Originally posted by divegeester to FetchmyjunkAnd Fetchmyjunk will also need to find an ex-Christian who actually cares what his personal definition of "genuine faith" is with whom to discuss it. 😉
Well you and he need to first agree on your definition of "genuine faith" don't you think?
Originally posted by FMF
[b]I have told Fetchmyjunk exactly why I won't answer his personal questions about
If you don't want to answer questions about your current beliefs, sonship, then you don't have to.
I do answer questions about my current beliefs.
And in asking these questions sometimes I must reflect on past beliefs.
I think the same goes with you.
You see, by asking you about your experience in the past your current beliefs are being asked about. I gather that Fetchmyjunk is asking about how past experience. This involves your current explanations and beliefs about the past.
The way I see it that is also about your current beliefs?
That's the standard for responding to questions I hold over myself and others. I have never once probed you on your beliefs in the past.
That is your choice.
I don't see any great noble thing in that you chose not to.
Originally posted by sonshipI am not a Christian, sonship. Fetchmyjunk has started explicitly that he wants to assess whether the Christian life I lived was "inaccurate". I am not interested in his assessment. Nor yours.
You see, by asking you about your experience in the past your current beliefs are being asked about. I gather that Fetchmyjunk is asking about how past experience. This involves your current explanations and beliefs about the past.
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I am not a Christian, sonship. Fetchmyjunk has started explicitly that he wants to assess whether the Christian life I lived was "inaccurate". I am not interested in his assessment. Nor yours.
I am not a Christian, sonship. Fetchmyjunk has started explicitly that he wants to assess whether the Christian life I lived was "inaccurate". I am not interested in his assessment. Nor yours.
But you will not be able to easily remove some of our suspicions that your bragging of being once a Christian is a lie.
Some of us will retain the possibility that your grandstanding about having been where we are now, is anything more than exaggerated bluster.
And when approached a little bit about it, you retreat into "Oh, it doesn't matter. Oh, I don't care if you believe me. Oh, it is neither here nor there."
But then when handy, you PUT it here or there.