1. Standard membercaissad4
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    13 Jan '20 06:06
    The more you think about it , the more you realize it is a victimless crime .
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    13 Jan '20 06:14
    Thoughtcrimes are victimless "crimes", too.
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    13 Jan '20 06:32
    @caissad4 said
    The more you think about it , the more you realize it is a victimless crime .
    As far as you see the potntial God as victim you are probably right, but there are of course the believers who suffer by it. So even if we only look at the people we do have victims.
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    13 Jan '20 10:34
    @caissad4 said
    The more you think about it , the more you realize it is a victimless crime .
    The more you think about it, the more you realize that the one who blasphemes victimizes their self.
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    @secondson said
    The more you think about it, the more you realize that the one who blasphemes victimizes their self.
    But what if no God exists? Can one blaspheme a non-existed deity, and if not, who is the victim?

    (Disclaimer. I am not proffering the delights of blasphemy, and do of course recognise that blasphemy is offensive to those who do believe).
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    13 Jan '20 10:57
    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    But what if no God exists? Can one blaspheme a non-existed deity, and if not, who is the victim?

    (Disclaimer. I am not proffering the delights of blasphemy, and do of course recognise that blasphemy is offensive to those who do believe).
    Can it get darker in a room if those sitting in it are blind?
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    @kellyjay said
    Can it get darker in a room if those sitting in it are blind?
    Sorry, need another morning coffee to get my head around that one.

    🙂
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    But what if no God exists? Can one blaspheme a non-existed deity, and if not, who is the victim?

    (Disclaimer. I am not proffering the delights of blasphemy, and do of course recognise that blasphemy is offensive to those who do believe).
    If God doesn't exist, then neither does blasphemy.

    (Don't worry, I'm not offended when I hear blasphemies against God, and I don't hear you ever actually doing that in a direct sense. When Jesus was being nailed to the cross He said, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." )
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    @kellyjay said
    Can it get darker in a room if those sitting in it are blind?
    The blind wouldn't know it if it did.
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    @caissad4 said
    The more you think about it , the more you realize it is a victimless crime .
    It's only a "crime" in certain countries where blasphemy will have you arrested, locked up or even beheaded.

    The causality related to criminalising of the taking of a god's name in vain is less to do with religion and more to do with culture.
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    13 Jan '20 12:40
    @kellyjay said
    Can it get darker in a room if those sitting in it are blind?
    When one considers that objective darkness is independent of subjective blindness, one then realises that you just pulled that idiom out of your underpants without giving it any real thought.
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    @divegeester said
    When one considers that objective darkness is independent of subjective blindness, one then realises that you just pulled that idiom out of your underpants without giving it any real thought.
    Seems you haven't given "any real thought" to the fact that the idiom was metaphorical.
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    @secondson said
    Seems you haven't given "any real thought" to the fact that the idiom was metaphorical.
    The relationship between objective darkness and subjective blindness is not metaphorical.

    You should look "metaphorical" up in a dictionary before we discuss this further.
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    13 Jan '20 13:08
    @divegeester said
    you just pulled that idiom out of your underpants without giving it any real thought.
    If only he hadn't typed it and posted it, it would have remained a mere thoughtcrime.
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    @divegeester said
    The relationship between objective darkness and subjective blindness is not metaphorical.

    You should look "metaphorical" up in a dictionary before we discuss this further.
    You should read Kelly's post more carefully because he was speaking metaphorically and it went over your head.
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