born again christian

Originally posted by jaywill
How much of this do you understand of what I have written ?

You're pouting self-regard is so funny.

Originally posted by Rajk999
If you truly understand AND FOLLOW the teachings and example of Christ, such trivial matters as which church you enter, which movie you see, which evil people you associate with, what foods you eat, etc etc, are of no consequence.

Christ and all the Apostles, associated with the sinners of their time, the drunks, the lowlifes, the prostitutes, the simple ...[text shortened]... o shallow that they need to place so much emphasis on such nonsense. I guess it is no surprise.

"If you truly understand AND FOLLOW the teachings and example of Christ, such trivial matters as which church you enter, which movie you see, which evil people you associate with, what foods you eat, etc etc, are of no consequence."

Can't it also be said that if you understand and follow the teachings and example of Christ, then your choice of church, movies, people, foods, etc. etc., will manifest your understanding and following of Christ? IOW your choices will reflect your faith? Rather than HAVE consequences, your choices ARE consequences.

Originally posted by FMF
You're pouting self-regard is so funny.

I see that you are interested not in really dialogue or understanding. You are interested in belittleling me.

FMF: They are using exactly the same scripture that you use, to declare your church "unclean".

Originally posted by jaywill
Can you give me an example ?

Didn't you understand that the reference to 'the church being "unclean" is from robbie and "pretty much" endorsed by galveston75, and you ask me for an example and not them? Didn't you understand?

Originally posted by jaywill
I see that you are interested not in really dialogue or understanding. You are interested in belittle me.

FMF: [pouting jaywill-like] How much do you understand of what I have written ?

Originally posted by FMF
Didn't you understand that the reference to 'the church being "unclean" is from robbie and "pretty much" endorsed by galveston75, and you ask me for an example and not them? Didn't you understand?

Without going back over the thread, I think Galveston and/or Robbie said something about Babylon in a general way, indicating degraded religiosity.

Nothing was said about the specific local church with which I meet.

Originally posted by JS357
"If you truly understand AND FOLLOW the teachings and example of Christ, such trivial matters as which church you enter, which movie you see, which evil people you associate with, what foods you eat, etc etc, are of no consequence."

Can't it also be said that if you understand and follow the teachings and example of Christ, then your choice of church, movie ...[text shortened]... hoices will reflect your faith? Rather than HAVE consequences, your choices ARE consequences.

First, the expression "of no consequence" means it is not important. You are using the word 'consequence' differently. However you are correct that after a proper understanding of Christ, the consequences on your choices will be apparent.

Note that my point was NOT that understanding Christ will encourage you to shy away from people you consider 'inferior'.

Originally posted by jaywill
Without going back over the thread, I think Galveston and/or Robbie said something about Babylon in a general way, indicating degraded religiosity.

Nothing was said about the specific local church with which I meet.

robbie said he wouldn't play chess in a local church as a "matter of conscience". I guess people like you and robbie get to define what "Babylon" is and denounce them all, and their way of following Jesus, as "unclean". I'll leave that kind of thing to you.

Originally posted by FMF
robbie said he wouldn't play chess in a local church as a "matter of conscience". I guess people like you and robbie get to define what "Babylon" is and denounce them all, and their way of following Jesus, as "unclean". I'll leave that kind of thing to you.

It is quite possible to talk about "Babylon" without getting personal.

I do not get upset if someone implies that I am in Babylon. The Lord knows my case much better than they do. And they may not know the half of it.

I don't get touchy in a personal way about this as much as you may think.
You said you are spiritual but not religious. Many of us aspire the same thing.

One can meet with a thousand fellow Christians who are at one time enjoying Christ in spirit but are not in religion. This brings us together rather than pulls us apart in individualistic isolation.

Originally posted by jaywill
It is quite possible to talk about "Babylon" without getting personal.

I suppose the utter contempt for "unclean" Babylon is targetted at so many people, it can hardly be described as "getting personal". The joyless misanthropy - no matter how much it is denied or disguised - that underpins the outlook and self-regard of so many Christians, is not something I miss being part of.

Originally posted by Rajk999
If you truly understand AND FOLLOW the teachings and example of Christ, such trivial matters as which church you enter, which movie you see, which evil people you associate with, what foods you eat, etc etc, are of no consequence.

Christ and all the Apostles, associated with the sinners of their time, the drunks, the lowlifes, the prostitutes, the simple ...[text shortened]... o shallow that they need to place so much emphasis on such nonsense. I guess it is no surprise.

Lol. Still whitewashing the seriousness of the Bible's warnings I see.
You know I could really care less about your thoughts on the Bible and how you see them. But it's so wrong to tell others to just blow these warnings off as if they were nothing. ((((((((They are in the Bible and were put there for a reason even if you think differently.)))))))))))))
But then coming from you it's no suprise.

Originally posted by jaywill
I see that you are interested not in really dialogue or understanding. You are interested in belittleling me.

He does that to all here so don't take it personal...

Originally posted by FMF
I suppose the utter contempt for "unclean" Babylon is targetted at so many people, it can hardly be described as "getting personal". The joyless misanthropy - no matter how much it is denied or disguised - that underpins the outlook and self-regard of so many Christians, is not something I miss being part of.

You are being a little vague on specifics. I know you are generally disgruntled about something related to my faith. It is all kind of vague to me.

I mean I know you're pissed off and disgusted. I got that part long ago.
You never get too specific about who and what kicked you in the groin psychologically or socially so that you will never forget it.

Its good to overcome resentment of the past offenses and to forgive.
I mean the same precious blood Jesus shed for my sins He also shed for the sins of my enemies.


Anyway, Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against His builded church. He didn't say the gates of hell would not try thier best. And I have no regrets about being a lover of Jesus with many other lovers of Jesus.

Originally posted by jaywill
You never get too specific about who and what kicked you in the groin psychologically or socially so that you will never forget it.

Kicked me in the groin psychologically or socially? What are you on about?

Originally posted by galveston75
He does that to all here so don't take it personal...

I read your longish post that included the copy and paste. I had a question that you ignored. Do you think Harry Potter films are "immoral"? Do you believe "Satan" has "exploited" Harry Potter films?