Originally posted by mikelomIn all fairness, the Bible says that we are all sinners, so the fact that we all may have engaged in this activity does not negate its possible sinfulness. In fact, the question is somewhat of a controversial one in Christianity in general apart from the JW spin.
So are you indicating, or indeed professing, that you never had a play with yourself, in all your youth and pre-marital years??
Come on, pull the other one! 😀
-m. 😉
Colossians 3:5
New Living Translation (NLT)
5 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world.
Either one gets this or they don't. God sees everything one does and if one feels comfortable fantasising about who knows what and doing this in plain sight of God then that's ones decision.
The greed part here could apply to doing this instead of giving what is due to ones marriage mate.
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-Removed-I get it.
No i dont think you do, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this question, what the
watchtower stated was, that if you engage in sexual fantasy through masturbation and
then wish to join someone else who in a similar way is also engaging in masturbation
that it could lead to a homosexual act, If you had read the article you would have
understood that, Bosse de Nage did, but then again, he read the article and understood
what it was saying, which he distilled rather excellently in the phrase,
Abstain from circle jerks.
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-Removed-that's what id does say, but you would need to read and understand the article. Clearly
you have not done either.
Or it can, and frequently does, lead into homosexuality, in which the person, not
satisfied with his lonely sexual activity, seeks a partner for mutual sex play.
Hard to argue with black and white print.
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Originally posted by galveston75
Colossians 3:5
New Living Translation (NLT)
5 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world.
Either one gets this or they don't. God sees everything one does and i greed part here could apply to doing this instead of giving what is due to ones marriage mate.
5 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world.
There is no way a person can apply the truth of this passage if he or she does not have the Holy Spirit. That's no way, no how, and at no time can a person put to death by the Holy Spirit bad habits, if he does not have the indwelling Spirit of Christ - the Holy Spirit. Anything in chapter 6 of Romans is dependent upon the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus in Romans chapter 8.
Since the Watchtower teaching fights tooth and nail the Person of the Holy Spirit, you all can forget about being able to have any experience of any exhortation in Romans chapter 6 about putting to death anything.
