Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeSounds like you're "living for giving the devil his due".
My arrogance sir is firmly based on my certainty of His non-existence. I am just as arrogantly certain that there is absolutely no celery in my fridge. (Long story).
Be careful Ghost.
Originally posted by @chaney3Oh, he doesn't exist either.
Sounds like you're "living for giving the devil his due".
Be careful Ghost.
Originally posted by @chaney3No, he didn't. We all have choice. Free will. Surely, you've heard of it. God-become-man-in-the-flesh, the man Jesus of Nazareth, conquered death for us. We become righteous through him, he has interceded for us.
Isn't it disturbing to think that using our free will to try to do good works could be for nothing, because God chose us for hell even before our birth?
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeAre you as certain that the cat in the box is dead or alive?
My arrogance sir is firmly based on my certainty of His non-existence. I am just as arrogantly certain that there is absolutely no celery in my fridge. (Long story).
Yes, both states exist, until you open the box and observe it.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukehow will though create the lords broth without celery, it is part of soups holy trinity COC celery,onions & carrots. ps the cat in the box is dead ...really dead I buried it two months ago.
My arrogance sir is firmly based on my certainty of His non-existence. I am just as arrogantly certain that there is absolutely no celery in my fridge. (Long story).
Originally posted by @suzianneYou obviously didn't read the OP.
No, he didn't. We all have choice. Free will. Surely, you've heard of it. God-become-man-in-the-flesh, the man Jesus of Nazareth, conquered death for us. We become righteous through him, he has interceded for us.
I addressed free will, "the elect", and "reprobate".
God's predetermined plan may outrank our free will. It may not matter what we do.
Originally posted by @chaney3But it does matter.
You obviously didn't read the OP.
I addressed free will, "the elect", and "reprobate".
God's predetermined plan may outrank our free will. It may not matter what we do.
Haven't you ready any of the NT?
Originally posted by @suzianneThat's twice now that you've ignored "the elect" and "reprobate".
But it does matter.
Haven't you ready any of the NT?
Can you please post your opinion about those, before doing what most people do:
Ignore every part of the Bible, except Jesus. There was a God before Jesus.....remember Him? He said some things too.
Originally posted by @chaney3'There was a God before Jesus...'
That's twice now that you've ignored "the elect" and "reprobate".
Can you please post your opinion about those, before doing what most people do:
Ignore every part of the Bible, except Jesus. There was a God before Jesus.....remember Him? He said some things too.
Ah, but was there?
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWell, arrogance didn't create itself, right?
'There was a God before Jesus...'
Ah, but was there?
There ya go.
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Originally posted by @chaney3'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.'
Well, arrogance didn't create itself, right?
There ya go.
(Arrogance not required. Just study).
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeStudy, but not belief.
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.'
(Arrogance not required. Just study).
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeBy the way, what was the purpose of the quoted scripture?
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.'
(Arrogance not required. Just study).
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Originally posted by @chaney3'In the beginning was the Word.'
By the way, what was the purpose of the quoted scripture?
Who was 'the Word' Chaney?!
(Here's a clue, 'And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...' John 1:14)
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI'm well aware of the verse.
'In the beginning was the Word.'
Who as 'the Word' Chaney?!
(Here's a clue, 'And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...' John 1:14)
Why don't you believe it? That's what I meant.