c.o.e. and woman bishops.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Do you often attack the veracity of a text without having actually read it?

I am skeptical about ideologues quoting authors and texts that seem to be largely uncorroborated, as you admit Jason DeBuhn's work is. Let me put the same question to you: Do you often attack the veracity of a text without having actually read it? Haven't you had long exchanges with posters like Proper Knob and twitehead about the "merits or veracity" of texts you haven't read or steadfastly refuse to read?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
but wait, you stated there are thousands of scholars, who are these scholars that you are referring to that could corroborate Dr BeDuns text?

OK, you don't need to cite thousands of scholars who corroborate Jason DeBuhn's opinions. Can you cite, say, 20 or 30?

Originally posted by FMF
I am skeptical about ideologues quoting authors and texts that seem to be largely uncorroborated, as you admit Jason DeBuhn's work is. Let me put the same question to you: Do you often attack the veracity of a text without having actually read it? Haven't you had long exchanges with posters like Proper Knob and twitehead about the "merits or veracity" of texts you haven't read or steadfastly refuse to read?

the question is not about me, its about you, do you often try to undermine the veracity of a text without actually having read it?

Originally posted by FMF
OK, you don't need to cite thousands of scholars who corroborate Jason DeBuhn's opinions. Can you cite, say, 20 or 30?

the question is directed towards you, i have stated three times i cannot cite a single reference, you stated there are thousands, can you cite , lets say five out of these thousands?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so you cannot say, you are merely intent to speculate that they are forgeries without knowing anything about who has allegedly forged them. Interesting.

Who wrote the 'Third Epistle to the Corinthians', Epistle to the Alexandrians and the Epistle to the Laodiceans?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so you cannot say, you are merely intent to speculate that they are forgeries without knowing anything about who has allegedly forged them. Interesting.

We have a problem with forged bank notes here in Indonesia from time to time. Do you think we cannot discern that they are forged, when we come across them, unless we know who forged them?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Who wrote the 'Third Epistle to the Corinthians', Epistle to the Alexandrians and the Epistle to the Laodiceans?

these are not Biblical works, they are apocrypha

Originally posted by FMF
We have a problem with forged bank notes here in Indonesia from time to time. Do you think we cannot discern that they are forged, when we come across them, unless we know who forged them?

do you read banknotes as often as you do Dr BeDhuns books?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the question is directed towards you, i have stated three times i cannot cite a single reference, you stated there are thousands, can you cite , lets say five out of these thousands?

If you "cannot cite a single reference" to a scholar who corroborates the opinions of one that you appear to rely on so heavily, then that is my question answered.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
these are not Biblical works

Exactly!!! They are letters attributed to Paul which are known to be fake. Who is writing them and why?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
do you read banknotes as often as you do Dr BeDhuns books?

The point being, one does not need to know the identity of a forger to be able to detect his or her forgery.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Exactly!!! They are letters attributed to Paul which are known to be fake.

one only needs to examine the content, how does the content of Timothy and Titus
attest to their lack of genuineness

Originally posted by FMF
The point being, one does not need to know the identity of a forger to be able to detect his or her forgery.

the point is a bank note is not an epistle to the Romans.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
one only needs to examine the content, how does the content of Timothy and Titus
attest to their lack of genuineness

Be careful not to fall into the trap of using a circular argument here.

Originally posted by FMF
If you "cannot cite a single reference" to a scholar who corroborates the opinions of one that you appear to rely on so heavily, then that is my question answered.

but you have not answered my questions , have you, you stated that there are
thousands of scholars who, apparently are able or otherwise to corroborate Dr
BeDhuns text, who are these thousands of scholars?