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    "The Church of England's general synod has voted against appointing women as bishops.
    Campaign group Women and the Church called it "a devastating blow" for the Church and the people of England.
    The next Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, earlier called on the synod to approve the measure.
    House of Bishops to meet on Wednesday to discuss "how we go forward as a Church".

    bbc news




    embarrassing for the c.o.e. showing what a bunch of misogynistic old farts are running the show.
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    20 Nov '12 18:561 edit
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    [b]"The Church of England's general synod has voted against appointing women as bishops.
    Campaign group Women an
    d the Church called it "a devastating blow" for the Church and the people of England.
    The next Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, earlier called on the synod to approve the measure.
    House of Bishops to meet on Wednesday to discuss ...[text shortened]... assing for the c.o.e. showing what a bunch of misogynistic old farts are running the show.[/b]
    Another nail in the coffin for Christianity here in the UK. If they haven't have shown how irrelevant they are already, they just may have done now.
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    20 Nov '12 19:09
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Another nail in the coffin for Christianity here in the UK. If they haven't have shown how irrelevant they are already, they just may have done now.
    LOL, yes because base materialism and the new morality is like so successful!
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    20 Nov '12 19:111 edit
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    The Church of England's general synod has voted against appointing women as bishops.
    Campaign group Women and the Church called it "a devastating blow" for the Church and the people of England.
    The next Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, earlier called on the synod to approve the measure.
    House of Bishops to meet on Wednesday to discuss "how assing for the c.o.e. showing what a bunch of misogynistic old farts are running the show
    more hate speech from the secular liberals who dont like anything that doesn't conform
    to their world view, may i suggest you try and join an all ladies gymnasium, perhaps
    you can cry about their sexist attitude once you are told you cannot.
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    20 Nov '12 19:21
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    LOL, yes because base materialism and the new morality is like so successful!
    Our UK society is more peaceful and equal than at any point in our history. Christianity has had it's chance, time to move over.
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    20 Nov '12 19:27
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Our UK society is more peaceful and equal than at any point in our history. Christianity has had it's chance, time to move over.
    move over to what exactly?
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    20 Nov '12 19:34
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    move over to what exactly?
    Something non religious.
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    20 Nov '12 19:44
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Something non religious.
    you mean like a secular liberal society, it already is!
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    20 Nov '12 19:48
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    more hate speech from the secular liberals who dont like anything that doesn't conform
    to their world view, may i suggest you try and join an all ladies gymnasium, perhaps
    you can cry about their sexist attitude once you are told you cannot.
    there is a very sensible reason for all female gyms. there isnt any sensible reasons for not having female bishops.
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    20 Nov '12 19:53
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    there is a very sensible reason for all female gyms. there isnt any sensible reasons for not having female bishops.
    and what is that?
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    20 Nov '12 20:34
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    there is a very sensible reason for all female gyms. there isnt any sensible reasons for not having female bishops.
    If religion was about doing the sensible thing, more than half of it would have to be scrapped.
    The fact is that the New Testament (just as the Old Testament) is against women leaders in Church. Although most Christians are comfortable with scrapping most of the rules of the Old Testament because they can conveniently say 'that was for the Jews', or 'that was the Old Covenant', it is not so easy to explain away disregarding the New Testament.
    On top of this, the Church of England is to a very large degree a tradition or culture as much as a religion. People don't like having their traditions changed. Just try moving Christmas to December 31st because its 'more sensible' and see how far you get.
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    20 Nov '12 20:35
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    and what is that?
    many woman are self conscious about their bodies, especially around men. due to the nature of the clothes worn at gyms many woman feel uncomfortable going to multi-sex gyms. the same principle could be applied to changing rooms, do you think female only changing rooms are sexist??? no of course you dont, that would be stupid, as is calling female only gyms sexist.

    there is no negative sub-text for female only gyms. their existence in no way says anything bad or subjugates men. unlike not allowing female bishops.
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    20 Nov '12 20:48
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    many woman are self conscious about their bodies, especially around men. due to the nature of the clothes worn at gyms many woman feel uncomfortable going to multi-sex gyms. the same principle could be applied to changing rooms, do you think female only changing rooms are sexist??? no of course you dont, that would be stupid, as is calling female only g ...[text shortened]... eir existence in no way says anything bad or subjugates men. unlike not allowing female bishops.
    ok then what about an all female orienteering group. What reason have you for being
    excluded from that?
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    20 Nov '12 20:51
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    If religion was about doing the sensible thing, more than half of it would have to be scrapped.
    The fact is that the New Testament (just as the Old Testament) is against women leaders in Church. Although most Christians are comfortable with scrapping most of the rules of the Old Testament because they can conveniently say 'that was for the Jews', or 'th ...[text shortened]... ry moving Christmas to December 31st because its 'more sensible' and see how far you get.
    there is no need to explain anything away, the Bible states that the responsibility for
    leadership and shepherding within the congregation is to be shouldered by men, end
    of.
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    20 Nov '12 20:581 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    there is no need to explain anything away, the Bible states that the responsibility for
    leadership and shepherding within the congregation is to be shouldered by men, end
    of.
    I was raised here in Dublin Ireland in the Catholic faith.
    One of three places where chicks have no authority.
    The other two are the Church of England and Saudi Arabia.

    I have seen JW women go around preaching with their men,
    but the Mormons don't allow that
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