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    16 Feb '18 12:17
    Originally posted by @secondson
    We're not wrong.

    Jesus is Lord, and we know it.

    You can know it too, when you come to the end of yourself, pride and self righteousness, hopefully before the end of your life.

    You're on the merry go round of life. Catch the brass ring before the bottom drops out.
    The OP is a thought exercise. You can testify about the sincerity and certainty of your faith on other threads or by starting your own thread about it.
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    16 Feb '18 12:45
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Calling all Christians: if you're wrong, and Islam is right, and assuming you pass the 'faith' requirement for your belief in the Abrahamic God [and you're forgiven for being sidetracked by the Christian distortion of the Prophet Jesus story], how do you think you will fare?

    http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/salvation

    https://www.islamreligion.com/articl ...[text shortened]... 1/

    http://strivingforeternity.org/resources/world-religions/islam/what-is-salvation-in-islam/
    Sounds like you need all the people you preach to to agree with you.
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    16 Feb '18 12:521 edit
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Sounds like you need all the people you preach to to agree with you.
    It's just a thought exercise on a debate and discussion message board on a chess website, sonship. I'm not Muslim. With the life you live, how would you fare if the version of the Abrahamic God you worship was wrong and Islam has it right?
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    16 Feb '18 13:14
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Calling all Christians: if you're wrong, and Islam is right, and assuming you pass the 'faith' requirement for your belief in the Abrahamic God [and you're forgiven for being sidetracked by the Christian distortion of the Prophet Jesus story], how do you think you will fare?

    http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/salvation

    https://www.islamreligion.com/articl ...[text shortened]... 1/

    http://strivingforeternity.org/resources/world-religions/islam/what-is-salvation-in-islam/
    You might as well ask what would I do if the moon were made of green cheese.

    Same answer: I guess we'll never know.
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    16 Feb '18 13:29
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    You might as well ask what would I do if the moon were made of green cheese.

    Same answer: I guess we'll never know.
    I would take a rocket ride up with plenty of crackers and Branston pickle.
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    16 Feb '18 15:22
    Originally posted by @fmf
    It's just a thought exercise on a debate and discussion message board on a chess website, sonship. I'm not Muslim. With the life you live, how would you fare if the version of the Abrahamic God you worship was wrong and Islam has it right?
    Christians apparently do not believe in thought exercises. 😛
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    16 Feb '18 15:49
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Yes, but I'm not a believer ~ and the OP isn't about me, nor is it about comparisons to me or other non-believers. The question is: how would you do if you're wrong and Islam is right?
    I guess it depends on the requirements for salvation in Islam and what that religion says happens to non-adherents in the afterlife.

    But I’m not at all worried as I (and many others far better at reviewing evidence than I) think the evidence for Jesus Christ’s deity and Resurrection is overwhelming (no, not proof, because one cannot please God without faith.)

    What is the evidence that God spoke to Mohammad?

    Are you aware that Muslims accept the Old Testament, though they dispute the part in Genesis in which God said the nations would be blessed through the line of Isaac (from whom the Jewish people descended) and not Ishmael (from whom Arabs, most of whom are Muslim, descended.) Muslims apparently think Jews tampered with that section of Genesis.

    Isaac and Ishmael were, of course, both from the seed of Abraham, though Isaac’s mother was Sarah, Abraham’s wife, while Ishmael’s mother was Hagar, Abraham’s maid.
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    16 Feb '18 16:04
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Calling all Christians: if you're wrong, and Islam is right, and assuming you pass the 'faith' requirement for your belief in the Abrahamic God [and you're forgiven for being sidetracked by the Christian distortion of the Prophet Jesus story], how do you think you will fare?

    http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/salvation

    https://www.islamreligion.com/articl ...[text shortened]... 1/

    http://strivingforeternity.org/resources/world-religions/islam/what-is-salvation-in-islam/
    Does this query suggest the following question to anyone?

    Whose religion has the worst afterlife experiences in store for its apostates?
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    16 Feb '18 16:13
    Originally posted by @js357
    Does this query suggest the following question to anyone?

    Whose religion has the worst afterlife experiences in store for its apostates?
    That’s a great question and I’d be interested in the answers (though not interested enough to look them up on my own lol.)
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    16 Feb '18 16:561 edit
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Calling all Christians: if you're wrong, and Islam is right, and assuming you pass the 'faith' requirement for your belief in the Abrahamic God [and you're forgiven for being sidetracked by the Christian distortion of the Prophet Jesus story], how do you think you will fare?

    http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/salvation

    https://www.islamreligion.com/articl ...[text shortened]... 1/

    http://strivingforeternity.org/resources/world-religions/islam/what-is-salvation-in-islam/
    Christians, give this man the honest answer.

    If Jesus is not risen and is not the Lord, we Christians have been tragically misled, deceived, cheated to the uttermost, totally hoodwinked.

    If the New Testament is not true, let's not make any mistake about it or hold any illusions. The tragedy of being so wrong about the Son of God would be unspeakably horrendous.

    If Muhammed is completely right and Christ is completely wrong, we Christians are the most miserable group of deceived human beings in history, period. If that's what you wanted to hear, you got it.

    So says Paul too.

    "And if the dead are not raised, neither has Christ been raised.

    And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins ... If it is only that we have hoped in Christ in this life, we are of all men most miserable." (See 1 Cor. 15:15-19)
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    16 Feb '18 17:03
    Calling all Christians.

    If the Gospel of Jesus is wrong and somebody like Muhammed is right, then let's eat and drink and have a good time following whatever our nature dictates, for tomorrow we die and rot.

    As it stands, the life and words of Jesus I think we can all take to the bank. The universal vindication of Jesus of Nazareth, I think, is the one inevitable event of human history.
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    16 Feb '18 17:28
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Calling all Christians.

    If the Gospel of Jesus is wrong and somebody like Muhammed is right, then let's eat and drink and have a good time following whatever our nature dictates, for tomorrow we die and rot.

    As it stands, the life and words of Jesus I think we can all take to the bank. The universal vindication of Jesus of Nazareth, I think, is the one inevitable event of human history.
    And the OP?
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    16 Feb '18 17:39
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Calling all Christians: if you're wrong, and Islam is right, and assuming you pass the 'faith' requirement for your belief in the Abrahamic God [and you're forgiven for being sidetracked by the Christian distortion of the Prophet Jesus story], how do you think you will fare?

    http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/salvation

    https://www.islamreligion.com/articl ...[text shortened]... 1/

    http://strivingforeternity.org/resources/world-religions/islam/what-is-salvation-in-islam/
    If I'm wrong, then I'm OK with it.

    I only want to serve a God represented by the example of Jesus. If the opposite is true, our example is Mo, then eternity will be a living hell anyway.
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    16 Feb '18 17:52
    Originally posted by @whodey
    If I'm wrong, then I'm OK with it.

    I only want to serve a God represented by the example of Jesus. If the opposite is true, our example is Mo, then eternity will be a living hell anyway.
    Yes. You are a Christian, we know. Good. Nothing wrong with that. So, anyway, what about the OP?
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    16 Feb '18 18:001 edit
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Calling all Christians.

    If the Gospel of Jesus is wrong and somebody like Muhammed is right, then let's eat and drink and have a good time following whatever our nature dictates, for tomorrow we die and rot.

    As it stands, the life and words of Jesus I think we can all take to the bank. The universal vindication of Jesus of Nazareth, I think, is the one inevitable event of human history.
    You believe Mohammad brought a message whereby followers would, as their reward, die and rot?


    By 'calling all Christians' you have simply summoned an audience to embarrass yourself in front of.
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