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Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

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This might be worth a thread of its own.

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@fmf said
Maybe, the Jewish rabbi who lived 2,000 years ago - the one you worship - didn't have any understanding of atheism or agnosticism. Maybe Jesus only knew about Jews ~ devout Jews and not devout Jews. Which Bible verses - in your view - depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of lack of belief, of atheism, of agnosticism, and of people adhering to other religions?
I don't think Jesus would divide up your belief systems as you do. It would fall into the unbeliever group regardless if you sort of believed, completely disbelieved, had no belief, believed but didn't care, believed but didn't think it important enough, whatever or however it can be described, if you are not in a right relationship on judgment day, odds are everyone will hear the same message. "Depart from me I never knew you."


@fmf said
Maybe, the Jewish rabbi who lived 2,000 years ago - the one you worship - didn't have any understanding of atheism or agnosticism. Maybe Jesus only knew about Jews ~ devout Jews and not devout Jews. Which Bible verses - in your view - depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of lack of belief, of atheism, of agnosticism, and of people adhering to other religions?
thinkofone's Jesus might have had that issue, he was just a guy who died. The Jesus of the Bible being the Son of God not so much.

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@kellyjay said
I don't think Jesus would divide up your belief systems as you do. It would fall into the unbeliever group regardless if you sort of believed, completely disbelieved, had no belief, believed but didn't care, believed but didn't think it important enough, whatever or however it can be described, if you are not in a right relationship on judgment day, odds are everyone will hear the same message. "Depart from me I never knew you."
If you don't think Jesus would divide up belief systems as I did, it would mean he had a truncated understanding of human nature. So which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?




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@fmf said
If you don't think Jesus would divide up belief systems as I did, it would mean he had a truncated understanding of human nature. So which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?
We tend to complicate things with our language, I'd say God doesn't mince words He typically just goes straight to the facts.


@kellyjay said
We tend to complicate things with our language, I'd say God doesn't mince words He typically just goes straight to the facts.
So which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of "the facts" of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?


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@fmf said
So which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of "the facts" of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?
You need a verse for the all knowing God's understanding of the human condition, the One who molded us, designed us, gave us our understanding?


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@kellyjay said
You need a verse for the all knowing God's understanding of the human condition, the One who molded us, designed us, gave us our understanding?
I am asking if you have any Bible verses pertaining to the specific issue I have raised. If you don't have any, just say you don't have any.

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