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Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

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@fmf said
Wow, did you not read my last few posts? The topic is "The Trinity and salvation". Even if you didn't read my posts, surely you read the thread title at the very least?
I read the title but trinity was not a concern as I pointed out to you.


@fmf said
I am always striving to be a good father and a good husband and a good colleague and a good teacher and a good broadcaster and a good community member and a good friend and companion to various people around the world and down my street. You are striving to be something you cannot be? How so?
I have no doubt you do and are, but being good is either a relative term, whose comparisons are done without absolutes, or there is an absolute standard that doesn’t fluctuate with changing opinions through time.

A good God for example that doesn’t change would have His own opinion.


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@kellyjay said
I have no doubt you do and are, but being good is either a relative term, whose comparisons are done without absolutes, or there is an absolute standard that doesn’t fluctuate with changing opinions through time.

A good God for example that doesn’t change would have His own opinion.
Atheists reside in a world without God and still manage to decide among themselves what is good and bad. Sure, there are some grey areas, but such areas are to be found also in scripture. The idea that the word of God has one unchanging standard for good simply doesn't stack up.


@kellyjay said
A good God for example that doesn’t change would have His own opinion.
The Biblical God commanded genocide. This is not ‘good’.


@kellyjay said
I have no doubt you do and are, but being good is either a relative term, whose comparisons are done without absolutes, or there is an absolute standard that doesn’t fluctuate with changing opinions through time.
You are striving to be something you cannot be? How so? What are you striving to be that you cannot be?

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@divegeester

Divegeester wants to cloud the issue.


Hardly, considering this is my thread, my topic.


Because it IS your thread and topic, it is more likely so.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Atheists reside in a world without God and still manage to decide among themselves what is good and bad. Sure, there are some grey areas, but such areas are to be found also in scripture. The idea that the word of God has one unchanging standard for good simply doesn't stack up.
Yes, Atheist figure out for themselves what they think is good and bad, I would even suggest that there are many look at scriptures and attempt to work out what they like to. Working out for ourselves Isn’t being held to any standard.

When Jesus was asked what was the greatest law He gave two not one. Love God and each other so as a static law anything we do contrary no matter how convenient or how strong our convictions we would be conflict with God.

As a broken people our truth meters reside in us with our desires and preferences guiding us. Self motivation and self righteousness can sway our truth meter into whatever desire we want, or can justify. This can be true with the written word and without it.

The moral law giver has to be a little more personal, or no matter what, or we are left to figuring it all out for ourselves.


@proper-knob said
The Biblical God commanded genocide. This is not ‘good’.
The Biblical God is the one who gives us life and sets up all the limitations from physics and life times.


@fmf said
You are striving to be something you cannot be? How so? What are you striving to be that you cannot be?
In Christ the struggle is over, outside of Him, it is efforts to reach what is beyond us.


@kellyjay said
In Christ the struggle is over, outside of Him, it is efforts to reach what is beyond us.
What are you striving to be that you think you cannot be without "Jesus"?


@kellyjay said
In Christ the struggle is over, outside of Him, it is efforts to reach what is beyond us.
What is beyond "us"?


@fmf said
What are you striving to be that you think you cannot be without "Jesus"?
You don’t remember?


@fmf said
What is beyond "us"?
You don’t remember?

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