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Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

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@kellyjay said
You don’t remember?
I am asking you what you are striving to be that you think you cannot be without "Jesus"? The answer to a question about KellyJay's beliefs is in KellyJay's head.


@kellyjay said
You don’t remember?
Ah, so you are assuming your discursive foetal position again.




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@fmf said
I am asking you what you are striving to be that you think you cannot be without "Jesus"? The answer to a question about KellyJay's beliefs is in KellyJay's head.
Yes, I saw your question and I asked you don't you remember since you were once a Christian. The basics you should know and if you didn't retain that...


@kellyjay said
Yes, I saw your question and I asked you don't you remember since you were once a Christian. The basics you should know and if you didn't retain that...
I am asking you about your belief not somebody else's. I am an agnostic atheist. If it helps you shake off your recurring. passive aggressive discursive paralysis, just tell yourself I am lying about having been a Christian.

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@fmf said
I am asking you about your belief not somebody else's. I am an agnostic atheist. If it helps you shake off your recurring. passive aggressive discursive paralysis, just tell yourself I am lying about having been a Christian.
You are a backslider too, and as such the most fundamental questions of the Christian faith you were exposed to, so I'm not going to engage you with those. They didn't stick when you believed in them for however many years why would my words matter? If these things come up in conversations, okay, but I'm not going to worry about it.

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@kellyjay said
You are a backslider too, and as such the most fundamental questions of the Christian faith you were exposed to, so I'm not going to engage you with those. They didn't stick when you believed in them for however many years why would my words matter? If these things come up in conversations, okay, but I'm not going to worry about it.
What is it about your faith that causes you to assume this defensive/deflective crouch time and time again?

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@fmf said
What is it about your faith that causes you to assume this defensive/deflective crouch time and time again?
You can say what you will, but if you ask me questions you should know the answers to I'm not going spend time on those things. We have actually gone of this ground before too where I did answer your questions, they don't stick with you, you don't want them to I supposed who knows. You cannot even bring yourself in explaining what you did know, if you cannot do that what purpose is it for you to ask someone else to do what you refuse to?


@kellyjay said
You can say what you will, but if you ask me questions you should know the answers to I'm not going spend time on those things. We have actually gone of this ground before too where I did answer your questions, they don't stick with you, you don't want them to I supposed who knows. You cannot even bring yourself in explaining what you did know, if you cannot do that what purpose is it for you to ask someone else to do what you refuse to?
I ask you questions about the things you claim about the things you say you believe because I am interested in your explanations and justifications for those claims and beliefs. I am interested in your current beliefs.

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@kellyjay said
Yes, I saw your question and I asked you don't you remember since you were once a Christian. The basics you should know and if you didn't retain that...
I am an atheist asking you, a theist, about your Christian beliefs. If I wanted to sift through and assess what I believed 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 25, 30, 35 years ago and compare it to some Christians' current beliefs, I'd probably just go to a Christian website where there were threads or sub-forums that cater to that. But I don't.

I am interested in talking about my current beliefs [and my current beliefs about Christian beliefs are no secret] and I am interested in talking about your current beliefs.


@fmf said
I am an atheist asking you, a theist, about your Christian beliefs. If I wanted to sift through and assess what I believed 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 25, 30, 35 years ago and compare it to your current beliefs, I'd probably just go to a Christian website where some threads or sub-forums cater to that. But I don't.

I am interested in talking about my current beliefs [and my c ...[text shortened]... fs about Christian beliefs are no secret] and I am interested in talking about your current beliefs.
You are also a backslider asking me to go over basic doctrine we have gone over before. You cannot bring yourself to share what you once believed, and ask me the same questions over and over. Read the Bible, it may come back to you.

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