@pianoman1 saidActually not, some believe the earth is ancient and was destroyed once before with water which had the age of dinosaurs. I'm not there; I believe they were created along with everything else; most died during the flood, which caused much of the fossils. Many of the issues that arise would be with our dating methods; are they as accurate as we would like to think? Since that type of thing cannot be shown accurate beyond question, I don't worry about it, and I could be wrong or correct and never know.
True.
But the creation story as told in Genesis, which I am assuming you believe, is rather hard to square with dinosaurs roaming the earth 60 million years before Adam and Eve.
I'm more concerned with the processes in play, can they do what people say they can, and I don't think an unguided, undirected, thoughtless, mindless process can do all we see in life. I don't think anyone can even postulate how life could start mindlessly, let alone improve over time. If the process cannot be done without help, starting and then guiding it along, then mindlessness cannot be given credit, enter something more than quite a few are willing even to give the possibility of a chance of being honest.
@bigdogg saidSo I would ask, can matter exist without information?
We don't know what happened 'before the big bang' or even if that phrase is coherent.
"Reasonable" doesn't help much on questions like this.
Quantum mechanics shows that the physical world does not always behave in "reasonable" ways. It works on probability rather than determinism. It has the 'spooky action at distance' of entanglement.
"Origin of the Universe" is another huge question. Preconceptions will likely have to be abandoned to gain further insight.
@kevin-eleven saidI can't wait.
Sorry, but we'll have to save that for next week's episode of "Questions from a Dog-kisser" 😉
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@kellyjay saidWait, what?
Actually not, some believe the earth is ancient and was destroyed once before with water which had the age of dinosaurs. I'm not there; I believe they were created along with everything else; most died during the flood, which caused much of the fossils. Many of the issues that arise would be with our dating methods; are they as accurate as we would like to think? Since that ...[text shortened]... omething more than quite a few are willing even to give the possibility of a chance of being honest.
Do you actually believe that the dinosaurs died out during "the Flood", Noah's Flood, and that dinosaurs existed all the way down to the modern age of humans?
Science believes that dinosaurs worldwide died out 66 million years ago because of a 10 km asteroid strike (the remnants of that strike are evidenced by 180 km Chicxulub crater in the Yucatan peninsula). Geologically, this is further evidenced by the existence of iridium spikes across the globe at the K-Pg boundary layer. This was long, long before humans evolved. It is widely accepted that the climate disruption of this impact caused the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event, a mass extinction in which 75% of plant and animal species on Earth became extinct. Yes, including the dinosaurs. This is evidenced by there being no dinosaur fossils found above the K-Pg boundary layer.
@suzianne said😊👏
Wait, what?
Do you actually believe that the dinosaurs died out during "the Flood", Noah's Flood, and that dinosaurs existed all the way down to the modern age of humans?
Science believes that dinosaurs worldwide died out 66 million years ago because of a 10 km asteroid strike (the remnants of that strike are evidenced by 180 km Chicxulub crater in the Yucatan peninsul ...[text shortened]... inosaurs. This is evidenced by there being no dinosaur fossils found above the K-Pg boundary layer.
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@suzianne saidSure, why not? The one thing that makes us think this is the dating methods we use, but even they cannot explain the sudden appearance of fully-formed life in one time period and others showing up at other times. The sudden appearance of life fully formed without precurses suggest life didn't just evolve slowly but showed up suddenly. The diversity of life we see in some places, not others, could occur for several reasons, none of which needs to be millions of years.
Wait, what?
Do you actually believe that the dinosaurs died out during "the Flood", Noah's Flood, and that dinosaurs existed all the way down to the modern age of humans?
Science believes that dinosaurs worldwide died out 66 million years ago because of a 10 km asteroid strike (the remnants of that strike are evidenced by 180 km Chicxulub crater in the Yucatan peninsul ...[text shortened]... inosaurs. This is evidenced by there being no dinosaur fossils found above the K-Pg boundary layer.
As I pointed out, for me, time is not a big issue; whatever time you think you need to explain what you believe occurred, I'll grant. Then what is required after that is looking at the processes people use to explain life and see if life can change that way in the amount of time you set or not. Life is highly complex; it's beginning right now cannot be explained; even the changing from one life into an entirely new form has obstacles to overcome when considering how information drives the processes. Is it reasonable?
@kellyjay saidI left out the word "NOT" it is kind of important.
Actually not, some believe the earth is ancient and was destroyed once before with water which had the age of dinosaurs. I'm not there; I believe they were created along with everything else; most died during the flood, which caused much of the fossils. Many of the issues that arise would be with our dating methods; are they as accurate as we would like to think? Since that ...[text shortened]... omething more than quite a few are willing even to give the possibility of a chance of being honest.
Actually not, some believe the earth is ancient and was destroyed once before with water which had the age of dinosaurs. I'm not there; I believe they were created along with everything else; most died during the flood, which caused much of the fossils. Many of the issues that arise would be with our dating methods; are they as accurate as we would like to think? Since that type of thing cannot be shown accurate beyond question, I don't worry about it, and I could be wrong or correct and never know.
I'm more concerned with the processes in play, can they do what people say they can, and I don't think an unguided, undirected, thoughtless, mindless process can do all we see in life. I don't think anyone can even postulate how life could start mindlessly, let alone improve over time. If the process cannot be done without help, starting and then guiding it along, then mindlessness cannot be given credit, enter something more than quite a few are NOT willing even to give the possibility of a chance of being honest.