1. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    07 Nov '05 06:37
    "The teachings of Christ make sense on a virus level. What does your virus do with enemies? It makes enemies into itself. If he hasn't caught it from the first cheek, turn the other cheek. There are few things more difficult than loving your enemies. So anyone who can do it will gain heavy power. Loving an enemy is an inhuman practice, placing the practitioner far above--or far below--the human level." (W.S. Burroughs, Ghost of Chance).
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    07 Nov '05 07:481 edit
    And in recent times the virus of Christianity has evolved into various super viruses which infect victims at a much higher rate.

    Only God can save us now!
    Oh shi-
  3. Standard memberHalitose
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    07 Nov '05 10:25
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    "The teachings of Christ make sense on a virus level. What does your virus do with enemies? It makes enemies into itself. If he hasn't caught it from the first cheek, turn the other cheek. There are few things more difficult than loving your enemies. So anyone who can do it will gain heavy power. Loving an enemy is an inhuman practice, placing the practitioner far above--or far below--the human level." (W.S. Burroughs, Ghost of Chance).
    And your point is? Are Christians viruses? Is "Virus" supposed to entail any emotive baggage?
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    07 Nov '05 10:29
    Originally posted by Halitose
    And your point is? Are Christians viruses? Is "Virus" supposed to entail any emotive baggage?
    If Burroughs is correct, Christians are virus vectors.

    I love my little virus.
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    07 Nov '05 11:37
    Originally posted by catfoodtim
    is this similar to memetics? * i like the fact that christianity, which would have an anti-evolution core, becomes a perfect example of successful evolution in practice. ooh the irony. * so would you consider the anti-virus/cure to christianity is commercialism/capitalism? * and how can the christian virus adapt to survive against this threat?
    Well...Burroughs' central premise was Word is Virus.

    An irony to relish.

    A cure? Well, complete isolation of virus vectors until the disease has run its course would be the best.

    Like all viruses it is capable of mutating. Perhaps children should be innoculated against it at birth.

    I think there's a capitalist virus out there as well.
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    07 Nov '05 11:48
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Well...Burroughs' central premise was Word is Virus.

    An irony to relish.

    A cure? Well, complete isolation of virus vectors until the disease has run its course would be the best.

    Like all viruses it is capable of mutating. Perhaps children should be innoculated against it at birth.

    I think there's a capitalist virus out there as well.
    Strangely enough I had this very conversation with a friend at the weekend, though not related to Burroughs. We decided that marriage was a transmission process, since most children are brought up in the fiath of their parents. In some societies it is unthinkable not to continue the religion of your parents and even in ones that it is not, there is still a certain taboo over having a child out of marriage.
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    07 Nov '05 12:11
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Family is a means of transmitting all kinds of things, including psychological problems. Narrative therapy is the most effective means of exorcising these demons that I've yet heard of. (They f*ck you up your mum & dad, as the poet said).
    But the idea of family as a bound unit of faith is somewhat more intentive than that which produces our many psychoses.
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    07 Nov '05 12:44
    Originally posted by catfoodtim
    so would you consider the anti-virus/cure to christianity is commercialism/capitalism? (to me the idea that hedonism is the only way to live seems to be diametrically opposed to christianity)
    Christianity is a form of hedonism, even if it means the pleasure they seek is the spiritual security blanket that their ego will exist forever...which, paradoxically enough, they seek by denying themselves basic human desires and emotions. Go figure.
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    07 Nov '05 12:49
    Originally posted by David C
    Christianity is a form of hedonism, even if it means the pleasure they seek is the spiritual security blanket that their ego will exist forever...which, paradoxically enough, they seek by denying themselves basic human desires and emotions. Go figure.
    Do you actually believe this (as BDN would say) "unmitigated load of crap", or are you merely acting for the masses?
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    07 Nov '05 12:54
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Do you actually believe this (as BDN would say) "unmitigated load of crap", or are you merely acting for the masses?
    He's just playing to the gallery, hoping someone will say "Encore!"
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    07 Nov '05 12:54
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Do you actually believe this (as BDN would say) "unmitigated load of crap", or are you merely acting for the masses?
    Actually, yes...although the 'unmitigated load of crap' line would probably come from Ratx.

    What part of my statement do you find so incredulous?
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    07 Nov '05 12:551 edit
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Do you actually believe this (as BDN would say) "unmitigated load of crap", or are you merely acting for the masses?
    Lol, I was talking to myself in that thread. Though how you can believe that...well never mind. I accept that you believe the Fall of Man brought about sexually transmitted diseases in animals.

    I don't know whether David believes what he just said, but I do.
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    07 Nov '05 12:57
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    He's just playing to the gallery, hoping someone will say "Encore!"
    ...and throw in a rec or two while they're at it.
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    07 Nov '05 13:07
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Do you actually believe this (as BDN would say) "unmitigated load of crap", or are you merely acting for the masses?
    That seems to me an entirely more likely event, than that of god's existence. A perfectly reasonable psychological function of Christianity could indeed be the process DC mentions, what makes you think it so poor? I was discussing the pschological processes behind belief systems with a Dr friend who works in an asylum and he believes it is quite obvious that the neural processes behind faith have the same root as those of several psychological syndromes.
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    07 Nov '05 13:14
    Originally posted by Halitose
    ...and throw in a rec or two while they're at it.
    Believe me, Hal...it's easier to come by the questionable recs on YOUR side of the forum. 😉
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