22 Oct 09
Originally posted by epiphinehasSo you basically want extracts from the four Gospels wherever Jesus is quoted? What about when he spoke to Paul? Would that count as a direct quote? What about non-Biblical sources?
What are the teachings of Christ? I'm not looking for a broad overview, but specifics. A list, if possible, complete with book, chapter and verse. Please only include direct quotes. Thanks ahead of time for your cooperation.
22 Oct 09
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Originally posted by epiphinehasso basically you want someone to google all that information for you because you are to lazy to come up with it yourself.
What are the teachings of Christ? I'm not looking for a broad overview, but specifics. A list, if possible, complete with book, chapter and verse. Please only include direct quotes. Thanks ahead of time for your cooperation.
i think this calls for a change of topic in this thread: let us talk instead about the lazyness of the human being and how some people degenerate into forum parasites asking for information that only requires some time on google.
ask me what GIYM means.
EDIT:of course there is a possibility none of the above applies to you. in which case you are a troll and could you please stop trolling?
22 Oct 09
Originally posted by twhiteheadhe also supposedly gave the apocalypse to john. let's not forget the apocalypse
So you basically want extracts from the four Gospels wherever Jesus is quoted? What about when he spoke to Paul? Would that count as a direct quote? What about non-Biblical sources?
22 Oct 09
Originally posted by epiphinehasSeek and you shall find. Matt 7:7
What are the teachings of Christ? I'm not looking for a broad overview, but specifics. A list, if possible, complete with book, chapter and verse. Please only include direct quotes. Thanks ahead of time for your cooperation.
I'm not sure of the meaning of this verse but I think it was a prophecy about the internet.
22 Oct 09
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Originally posted by epiphinehasAccording to 'The Jesus Seminar' the following have the highest probability of being authentic sayings of Jesus.
What are the teachings of Christ? I'm not looking for a broad overview, but specifics. A list, if possible, complete with book, chapter and verse. Please only include direct quotes. Thanks ahead of time for your cooperation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar#Authentic_sayings.2C_as_determined_by_the_seminar
Authentic sayings, as determined by the seminar
The Red sayings (with % indicating the weighted average of those in agreement), given in the Seminar's own "Scholar's Version" translation, are:
1. Turn the other cheek (92% ): Mt 5:39, Lk6:29a
2. Coat & shirt: Mt5:40 (92% ), Lk6:29b (90% )
3. Congratulations, poor!: Lk6:20b (91% ), Th54 (90% ), Mt5:3 (63% )
4. Second mile (90% ): Mt5:41
5. Love your enemies: Lk6:27b (84% ), Mt5:44b (77% ), Lk6:32,35a (56% ) (compare to black rated "Pray for your enemies": POxy1224 6:1a; Didache 1:3; Poly-Phil 12:3; and "Love one another": John 13:34-35, Romans 13:8, 1 Peter 1:22)
6. Leaven: Lk13:20–21 (83% ), Mt13:33 (83% ), Th96:1–2 (65% )
7. Emperor & God (82% ): Th100:2b–3, Mk12:17b, Lk20:25b, Mt22:21c (also Egerton Gospel 3:1-6)
8. Give to beggars (81% ): Lk6:30a, Mt5:42a, Didache1:5a
9. Good Samaritan (81% ): Lk10:30–35
10. Congrats, hungry!: Lk6:21a (79% ), Mt5:6 (59% ), Th69:2 (53% )
11. Congrats, sad!: Lk6:21b (79% ), Mt5:4 (73% )
12. Shrewd manager (77% ): Lk16:1–8a
13. Vineyard laborers (77% ): Mt20:1–15
14. Abba, Father (77% ): Mt6:9b, Lk11:2c
15. The Mustard Seed : Th20:2–4 (76% ), Mk4:30–32 (74% ), Lk13:18–19 (69% ), Mt13:31–32 (67% )
[edit] Some probably authentic sayings, as determined by the seminar
The top 15 (of 75) Pink sayings are:
16. On anxieties, don't fret (75% ): Th36, Lk12:22–23, Mt6:25
17. Lost Coin (75% ): Lk15:8–9
18. Foxes have dens: Lk9:58 (74% ), Mt8:20 (74% ), Th86 (67% )
19. No respect at home: Th31:1 (74% ), Lk4:24(71% ), Jn4:44 (67% ), Mt13:57 (60% ), Mk6:4 (58% )
20. Friend at midnight (72% ): Lk11:5–8
21. Two masters : Lk16:13a, Mt6:24a (72% ); Th47:2 (65% )
22. Treasure: Mt13:44 (71% ), Th109 (54% )
23. Lost sheep: Lk15:4–6 (70% ), Mt18:12–13 (67% ), Th107 (48% )
24. What goes in: Mk7:14–15 (70% ), Th14:5 (67% ), Mt15:10-11 (63% )
25. Corrupt judge (70% ): Lk18:2–5
26. Prodigal son (70% ): Lk15:11–32
27. Leave the dead (see also But to bring a sword, Nazirite): Mt8:22 (70% ), Lk9:59–60 (69% )
28. Castration for Heaven (see also Origen, Antithesis of the Law) (70% ): Mt19:12a
29. By their fruit (69% ) (see Antinomianism): Mt7:16b, Th45:1a, Lk6:44b (56% )
30. The dinner party, The wedding celebration: Th64:1–11 (69% ), Lk14:16-23 (56% ), Mt22:2-13 (26% )
22 Oct 09
Originally posted by rwingettThis was indeed a happy post😵
According to 'The Jesus Seminar' the following have the highest probability of being authentic sayings of Jesus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar#Authentic_sayings.2C_as_determined_by_the_seminar
Authentic sayings, as determined by the seminar
The Red sayings (with % indicating the weighted average of those in agreement), given in the ...[text shortened]... , The wedding celebration: Th64:1–11 (69% ), Lk14:16-23 (56% ), Mt22:2-13 (26% )
22 Oct 09
Originally posted by epiphinehasTo love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself.
What are the teachings of Christ? I'm not looking for a broad overview, but specifics. A list, if possible, complete with book, chapter and verse. Please only include direct quotes. Thanks ahead of time for your cooperation.
I think that sums it up.
22 Oct 09
Let me narrow things down a bit.
I'm not looking for broad generalizations (e.g., love God with all your heart, etc.), or everything Christ said about anything. What I'm looking for specifically (I should've mentioned this earlier), are the teachings of Christ which pertain to how one ought to behave; i.e., what one must do in order to be considered a true follower of Christ. Christ said a lot of things about Himself, about spiritual realities, the future, etc., many things that haven't much to do with how one ought to live. These can be disregarded (for the time being). I'd like to create a list of only practical teachings.
Thanks.
22 Oct 09
Originally posted by Zahlanzi...you are a troll and could you please stop trolling?
so basically you want someone to google all that information for you because you are to lazy to come up with it yourself.
i think this calls for a change of topic in this thread: let us talk instead about the lazyness of the human being and how some people degenerate into forum parasites asking for information that only requires some time on google.
...[text shortened]... e of the above applies to you. in which case you are a troll and could you please stop trolling?
The definition of a troll is someone who posts something off-topic (e.g., "let us talk instead about..."), irrelevant (e.g., "ask me what GIYM means."), or inflammatory (e.g., "...you are... lazy... you are a troll..."). Your post fits this definition, not mine.
If you don't want to participate in this discussion, then please... don't.
22 Oct 09
Originally posted by rwingettThanks, but 'The Jesus Seminar' is of no interest. Although, there are a few relevant verses here.
According to 'The Jesus Seminar' the following have the highest probability of being authentic sayings of Jesus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar#Authentic_sayings.2C_as_determined_by_the_seminar
Authentic sayings, as determined by the seminar
The Red sayings (with % indicating the weighted average of those in agreement), given in the ...[text shortened]... , The wedding celebration: Th64:1–11 (69% ), Lk14:16-23 (56% ), Mt22:2-13 (26% )
22 Oct 09
Originally posted by josephwYes, it does. Although, if possible, I'm looking for more practical teachings. If the supreme commandment can be broken down and put into practical terms, that's be fine, too.
To love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself.
I think that sums it up.
I do plan on contributing to this effort, even if no one else does. Just as soon as I have some time alone with my Bible.