Christ Distilled

Originally posted by epiphinehas
Sorry, I don't believe anything 'The Jesus Seminar' has claimed regarding what Jesus did or did not say.

So you don't want to know what Jesus said. You don't want to know what his teachings actually were. What you want is to have your misconceptions reinforced. Make no mistake, Jesus never said half the things that are attributed to him in the bible.

Originally posted by rwingett
So you don't want to know what Jesus said. You don't want to know what his teachings actually were. What you want is to have your misconceptions reinforced. Make no mistake, Jesus never said half the things that are attributed to him in the bible.

unsubstantiated postulation, a proffer based on faith rather than reason!

ok, ill have a shot

Christ taught us to set priorities in life

Jesus said to the crowd who had gathered to hear him: “Stop being anxious about your souls as to what you will eat or what you will drink, or about your bodies as to what you will wear. Does not the soul mean more than food and the body than clothing? Observe intently the birds of heaven, because they do not sow seed or reap or gather into storehouses; still your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth more than they are? . . . So never be anxious and say, ‘What are we to eat?’ or, ‘What are we to drink?’ or, ‘What are we to put on?’ For all these are the things the nations are eagerly pursuing. For your heavenly Father knows you need all these things. Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.” (Matthew 6:25-33) What do we learn from this?

Jesus was not implying that we should neglect taking care of our physical needs and those of our family members. “If anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household,” states the Bible, “he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” (1 Timothy 5:8)

However, Jesus promised that if we put first things first and give priority to spiritual matters, God will make sure that other needs are met. The lesson here is about setting priorities. Following this advice leads to happiness, for “happy are those conscious of their spiritual need.”—Matthew 5:3.

The ultimate benefits of applying such a teaching is that it will help us gauge what are needs and what are desires, thus freeing us from all types of materialistic anxieties, knowing that the Father cares for us!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
unsubstantiated postulation, a proffer based on faith rather than reason!

It's all unsubstantiated postulation, although some of it is transubstantiated as well.

Originally posted by rwingett
It's all unsubstantiated postulation, although some of it is transubstantiated as well.

Lol, very funny!

Originally posted by rwingett
It's all unsubstantiated postulation, although some of it is transubstantiated as well.

You are correct because we all know he was really a socialist. 😛

Originally posted by epiphinehas
What are the teachings of Christ? I'm not looking for a broad overview, but specifics. A list, if possible, complete with book, chapter and verse. Please only include direct quotes. Thanks ahead of time for your cooperation.

Of course, the law to end all laws comes to mind to love the Lord your God with all your heart and sould and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself. ON this law hangs all other laws so if you observe it you will remain sinless.

Of course, Christ gave us the example of the good samaritan when loving your neighbor, but what does it mean to love God? Christ also said that those who love me will do as I say to try and please me. Therefore, it would behoove one to do the exact exercise you are doing now, of course, it NEVER ends just as it didn't for Christ.

To please the Father, Jesus constantly went about doing the Fathers business. Case in point, was when he chased out the money changers with a whip out of the temple. So why did he do such a thing when he rebuked Peter for cutting off the mans ear who had come to take him to the cross? It was because the men in the temple were interferring with the worship of the Father as where he was not as intent in defending himself personally from the men who came to take him to the cross. It is a love for the Father that supercedes the welfare of your own person in terms of doing the Fathers will. So what is the will of the Father in your own life that will contrinbute to the kingdom of God on earth? That is the question you shouild be asking.

Originally posted by whodey
You are correct because we all know he was really a socialist. 😛

i think we can safely assert that he was certainly no capitalist 😛

Originally posted by whodey
You are correct because we all know he was really a socialist. 😛

There you go with that socialism stuff again. You're like a broken record, or something.

Originally posted by rwingett
There you go with that socialism stuff again. You're like a broken record, or something.

I just like yanking your chain a little.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i think we can safely assert that he was certainly no capitalist 😛

I think Christ would point to how the nation of Israel was set up originally. The people did not have a king nor any legislative body, rather, they only had judges set in place to settle disputes among the people. However, in 1 Samuel chapter 8 we see the people demand a king to rule over them. God then tells his prophet that the people are rejecting him from ruling over them and warns them of the dire consequences of having some yahoo rule them. Of course, the people cared little about the warning and the rest is history.

Originally posted by whodey
I just like yanking your chain a little.

😞

Originally posted by whodey
I think Christ would point to how the nation of Israel was set up originally. The people did not have a king nor any legislative body, rather, they only had judges set in place to settle disputes among the people. However, in 1 Samuel chapter 8 we see the people demand a king to rule over them. God then tells his prophet that the people are rejecting him f ...[text shortened]... yahoo rule them. Of course, the people cared little about the warning and the rest is history.

what is this some attempt to state that the nation in its period before the inauguration of their first King, that being Saul, was somehow the embodiment of laissez faire? oh please, for if you shall go back just a little further, you will note that the nation from the sojourn from Egypt through the wilderness was incredibly organised, Moses being prominent, and when it proved too much for him, he appointed others to be leaders over thousands, leaders over hundreds and leaders over ten. you will also note the communal spirit that was evident, persons contributing, materially and through personal skills and other resources as in building the tabernacle in the wilderness for the common good. in fact, you shall note that when Achan decided to take something for himself, gold and robes in the form of private property, he was put to death. Going even further back, to the Garden of Eden, there was no money, nope, if one wanted an orange, one simply picked it from a tree. one did not need to exchange anything in monetary terms, no sirree, therefore, i think that your case for laissez faire is rather unfounded and on a shaky argument at that! and Christ would agree with me and ming!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
what is this some attempt to state that the nation in its period before the inauguration of their first King, that being Saul, was somehow the embodiment of laissez faire? oh please, for if you shall go back just a little further, you will note that the nation from the sojourn from Egypt through the wilderness was incredibly organised, Moses being p ...[text shortened]... e is rather unfounded and on a shaky argument at that! and Christ would agree with me and ming!

It was not an attempt to compare it to a laissez faire system, rather, it was only pointing out the servitude/slavery that insues when man, who has a fallen nature, is put in power over other men which 1 Samuel points out if you read it. Its a little thing called FREEDOM.

Originally posted by epiphinehas
[b]...you are a troll and could you please stop trolling?

The definition of a troll is someone who posts something off-topic (e.g., "let us talk instead about..."), irrelevant (e.g., "ask me what GIYM means."), or inflammatory (e.g., "...you are... lazy... you are a troll..."). Your post fits this definition, not mine.

If you don't want to participate in this discussion, then please... don't.[/b]

or posting nonsense to incite a response