Spirituality
28 Mar 14
28 Mar 14
I'm just curious. I'd like to get a head count of which theists believe in evolution, and which do not. When I say 'believe in evolution', I mean embracing all of it. Millions of years; common descent of all life, etc. People who 'only believe in micro-evolution' will not be considered pro-evolution in my tally, but anti.
I'd like to know, by percentage, how many theists are fine with evolution. I have a theory that the majority of them are OK with it, but the anti-ev's shout louder.
So, here's what I remember so far. If I have placed you in the wrong category, feel free to correct me. If your name is not on the list, feel free to add it.
Pro-evolution:
whodey
suzianne
divegeester
Anti-evolution:
dasa
RJHinds
FreakyKBH
sonship (this is an educated guess; he supports a literal Noah's ark.)
RBHILL
Pro evolution so far : 37.5%
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by SwissGambitWhodey is not a pro evolutionist, I remember him getting all excited about an alleged discovery of Noah's Ark, which of course turned out to be a hoax. Neither is robbie, nor Galveston75 nor menace71 (I think). CalJust is pro evolution.
I'm just curious. I'd like to get a head count of which theists believe in evolution, and which do not. When I say 'believe in evolution', I mean embracing all of it. Millions of years; common descent of all life, etc. People who 'only believe in micro-evolution' will not be considered pro-evolution in my tally, but anti.
I'd like to know, by percenta ...[text shortened]... ducated guess; he supports a literal Noah's ark.)
RBHILL
Pro evolution so far : [b]37.5%[/b]
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by SwissGambitI don't think I believe in evolution as the origin of live. To be frank "believe" is not the right word as I'm not sure how to "believe" in this matter.
I'm just curious. I'd like to get a head count of which theists believe in evolution, and which do not. When I say 'believe in evolution', I mean embracing all of it. Millions of years; common descent of all life, etc. People who 'only believe in micro-evolution' will not be considered pro-evolution in my tally, but anti.
I'd like to know, by percenta ...[text shortened]... ducated guess; he supports a literal Noah's ark.)
RBHILL
Pro evolution so far : [b]37.5%[/b]
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by Proper KnobYeah, there are going to be some tough decisions. I thought I recalled whodey being an old-earther and common-descenter. I think I will hold my nose and allow Noah's arkers to be pro-evolution as long as they allow for common descent and the proper length of time for life to evolve from a simple single-celled organism.
Whodey is not a pro evolutionist, I remember him getting all excited about an alleged discovery of Noah's Ark, which of course turned out to be a hoax. Neither is robbie, nor Galveston75 nor menace71 (I think). CalJust is pro evolution.
Of course, whodey himself can deny being pro-evolution if he wishes.
Pro-evolution:
whodey
suzianne
divegeester
CalJust
Anti-evolution:
dasa
RJHinds
FreakyKBH
sonship (this is an educated guess; he supports a literal Noah's ark.)
RBHILL
menace71
robbiecarrobie
galveston75
Pro evolution so far : 33%
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by divegeesterEvolution is not an origin theory; it assumes a simple single-celled organism to start. It does not go back any further. Science has drawn a blank on the origin of life so far.
I don't think I believe in evolution as the origin of live. To be frank "believe" is not the right word as I'm not sure how to "believe" in this matter.
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by SwissGambitIf push comes to shove (as it does here), I'd say I am a creationist. That's not to say I don't see evolution in natural selection.
Evolution is not an origin theory; it assumes a simple single-celled organism to start. It does not go back any further. Science has drawn a blank on the origin of life so far.
I guess I'll get darts from both directions.
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by divegeesterIMO evolution does not rule out creation (despite the adamant protests to the contrary). It only rules out young-earth creationism.
If push comes to shove (as it does here), I'd say I am a creationist. That's not to say I don't see evolution in natural selection.
I guess I'll get darts from both directions.
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by Proper KnobI'm not pro evolution nor am I anti-evolution. I have no problem with the scientific findings. This is because God cannot be found in the material findings because he is not a material God. I also have at lenght tried to discuss my interpretation of Genesis in terms of creation, but much to my chagrin, it appears it has all gone in one ear and out the other.
Whodey is not a pro evolutionist, I remember him getting all excited about an alleged discovery of Noah's Ark, which of course turned out to be a hoax. Neither is robbie, nor Galveston75 nor menace71 (I think). CalJust is pro evolution.
So you are once again wrong Mr. Knob. 😏
As for Noah's ark, I have no idea what that has to do with evolution. From a secular point of view, all ancient myths in that region talk of a great flood, so obviously there was one. Now whether it was world wide is another think altogether.
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by divegeesternobody believes in evolution as the origin of life because it has nothing to do with that.
I don't think I believe in evolution as the origin of live. To be frank "believe" is not the right word as I'm not sure how to "believe" in this matter.
back to the topic, i too am a theist that accepts evolution as fact. (i don't like "believe" when it comes to proven scientific fact)
28 Mar 14
Let me just say that no matter your position, Godless or God mediated, most of what occured to bring about life is a mystery and always will be. It is rather irritating when people on either end of the spectrum are so full of themselves that they are so cock sure that any view other than their own could have any validity.
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by ZahlanziI think many people of faith think evolution deals with the origins of life. This is a common misconception.
nobody believes in evolution as the origin of life because it has nothing to do with that.
back to the topic, i too am a theist that accepts evolution as fact. (i don't like "believe" when it comes to proven scientific fact)
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by whodeySo do you accept common descent?
I'm not pro evolution nor am I anti-evolution. I have no problem with the scientific findings. This is because God cannot be found in the material findings because he is not a material God. I also have at lenght tried to discuss my interpretation of Genesis in terms of creation, but much to my chagrin, it appears it has all gone in one ear and out the othe ...[text shortened]... t flood, so obviously there was one. Now whether it was world wide is another think altogether.
29 Mar 14
Originally posted by Proper KnobI have no bone to pick with the theory. Essentially, I think that mankind became "human" once God breathed life into "Adam". The physical material structure is not as consequential as the spiritual.
So do you accept common descent?
What I can tell you is what both the Bible and science tell us. We were made from the dust of the earth.
29 Mar 14
Originally posted by whodeySo you accept common descent, is that what you're saying?
I have no bone to pick with the theory. Essentially, I think that mankind became "human" once God breathed life into "Adam". The physical material structure is not as consequential as the spiritual.
What I can tell you is what both the Bible and science tell us. We were made from the dust of the earth.