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Originally posted by RJHindsBack in September, robbie told us that Jehovah's Witnesses can be "part time judges, lawyers, doctors, persons with businesses". Now he says they are also 'not of this world'.
It seems that it is okay for JWs to take action on political issues in the government court systems around the world, but for some unclear reason certain other political actions are prohibited.
Originally posted by FMFSounds weird even to a Christian like myself and you know we believe in a lot of things that seem weird.
Back in September, robbie told us that Jehovah's Witnesses can be "part time judges, lawyers, doctors, persons with businesses". Now he says they are also 'not of this world'.
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Originally posted by RJHindsits not weird at all, not if you read the Biblical context that Christ gave it in, what a pity, JS357 and I were having such a fruitful discussion.
Sounds weird even to a Christian like myself and you know we believe in a lot of things that seem weird.
The world alienated from God.
A use of kosmos unique to the Scriptures is in making it stand for the world of
mankind apart from God's servants. Peter writes that God brought the Deluge “upon
a world of ungodly people,” while preserving Noah and his family; in this way “the
world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.” (2Pe 2:5;
3:6) It may again be noted that the reference here is not to the destruction of the
planet or of the celestial bodies of the universe, but it is restricted to the human
sphere, in this case the unrighteous human society. It was that “world” that Noah
condemned by his faithful course - Heb 11:7.
Christians and the World of Mankind
In a prayer to his heavenly Father, Jesus said of his followers: “The world has hated
them, because they are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.”
Then he added: “I request you, not to take them out of the world, but to watch over
them because of the wicked one.” (John 17:14, 15) Christians were not to be
separated physically from the world—for example, by segregation in monasteries.
Rather, Christ “sent them forth into the world” to be his witnesses “to the most
distant part of the earth.” (John 17:18; Acts 1:8) Still, he asked God to watch over
them because Satan, “the ruler of this world,” would incite hatred against them on
account of Christ’s name.—John 12:31; Matthew 24:9.
In the Bible the word “world” (Greek, kosmos) often designates unrighteous human
society, which “is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) Because
Christians comply with Jehovahs standards and also heed the command to preach
the good news of God’s Kingdom to the world, sometimes a difficult relationship has
existed between them and the world. (2 Timothy 3:12; 1 John 3:1, 13) However,
kosmos is also used in Scripture to refer to the human family in general. Speaking
of the world in this sense, Jesus said: “God loved the world so much that he gave his
only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be
destroyed but have everlasting life. For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for
him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.” (John 3:16, 17;
2 Corinthians 5:19; 1 John 4:14) So, while hating the things that characterize
Satan’s wicked system, Jehovah showed his love for mankind by sending his Son to
earth in order to save all who would “attain to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9; Proverbs
6:16-19) Jehovah’s balanced attitude toward the world should guide his worshippers.
Jesus Example
Shortly before his death, Jesus told Pontius Pilate: “My kingdom is no part of this
world.” (John 18:36) In harmony with these words, Jesus had earlier rejected
Satan’s offer to give him authority over the kingdoms of the world, and he had
refused to allow the Jews to make him a king. (Luke 4:5-8; John 6:14, 15) Yet, Jesus
showed great love for the world of mankind. An example of this was reported by
the apostle Matthew: “On seeing the crowds he felt pity for them, because they were
skinned and thrown about like sheep without a shepherd.” Out of love, he preached
to the people in their towns and villages. He taught them and healed their infirmities.
(Matthew 9:36) He was also sensitive to the physical needs of those who came to
learn from him. We read: “Jesus called his disciples to him and said: ‘I feel pity for
the crowd, because it is already three days that they have stayed with me and they
have nothing to eat; and I do not want to send them away fasting. They may
possibly give out on the road.’” (Matthew 15:32) What loving concern!
source : Jehovahs Witnesses
summation,
1. The world referred to can mean the world alienated from God as well as mankind in general, depending on the context.
2. Christians while working, living, preaching in this environment are not to be
separated from it, but to be careful not to adopt it attitudes, including is ethnic,
religious, moral and political strife.
3. Christians are under duress to demonstrate love to all people, as Christ did, but
not to adopt the prevalent attitudes of a society which the scriptures indicate is ruled
by a satanic agency which is alienated from God.
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-Removed-try offering something other than personal and abusive texts, its not about Galveston is
it Crusty? Haters gonna hate. Sure offering free home Bible studies, helping people
overcome addictions, prostitution and overcoming all manner of strife is real
dangerous, we have solved all ethnic, religious and political strife among ourselves and
here you are wanting to introduce it, piece of advice, try not to look so silly, you are
embarrassing yourself.
Originally posted by RJHindsdid you pray for your Mormon friend that he will win the election, tell us again how he is
If they don't pay attention to the Watchtower and obey those teachings, they may not be able to live on a paradise Earth. The paradise in Heaven is already ruled out for them, since there is no more room there. It can only hold 144,000 JWs. 😏
spreading the word of God? tell us how you benefited by voting?
Originally posted by RJHindsHe clearly said which you seem to miss completely is that his followers would be "NO PART of this WORLD". Let me quote this again: "No PART of this WORLD"
Then Pilate entered the Praetorium again, called Jesus, and said to Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?”
Jesus answered him, “Are you speaking for yourself about this, or did others tell you this concerning Me?”
Pilate answered, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests have delivered You to me. What have You done?”
Jesus answered, “[b]M ...[text shortened]... ould stay out of politics.
P.S. Why does the Watchtower think voting is evil and wrong?[/b]
You fail over and over again to understand this and what he meant.
((((((He said that for a reason.))))))) If you don't understand it then pray to God for understanding. And if you do get that understanding, would you make the decision to comply with it?
You can fluff it and wash it's meaning down all you want but that does not change the meaning behind what he said.
Justy out of curiosity what do you "not do" that would show you are no part of this world that Jesus spoke of?
Just a couple things would be fine.............Go ahead I'll be waiting.
Originally posted by FMFNo I would not as my God and his son have told me to be no part of this world. God has left man to his own rules and regulations and the consequences and he condemns it all. So why would I feel the need to go beyond my God's rules and get involved?
This is not what is being discussed here, and you know it.
Would you stand up for me [or others] and speak out against and/or oppose political injustice?