08 Sep 17
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI think it's Latin.
First sir, please evidence that 'out-pinnacle' is a viable word.
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Originally posted by @fmfHaving a real supernatural experience when you realise how much Jesus loves you even if you have turned your back on Him.
I saw this in the paper today:
"As Aristotle noted, close, deep friendship is one of the pinnacles of human experience."
Is it true?
What other experiences out-pinnacle it?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerFor me personally, there were certainly some experiences related to my Christian beliefs that were pinnacles in my life. I'm not interested in describing them now but I still remember and perceive those experiences as meaningful and influential to me despite the fact that I have lost that faith and those beliefs in the meantime. Indeed, religiosity can and does permeate and affect all other pinnacle experiences.
Having a real supernatural experience when you realise how much Jesus loves you even if you have turned your back on Him.
09 Sep 17
Originally posted by @fmfWhy do you refer to them as perceived experiences? Surely if you experienced the experience then it is a valid stand alone experience irrespective of your position on christianity today?
For me personally, there were certainly some experiences related to my Christian beliefs that were pinnacles in my life. I'm not interested in describing them now but I still remember and perceive those experiences as meaningful and influential to me despite the fact that I have lost that faith and those beliefs in the meantime. Indeed, religiosity can and does permeate and affect all other pinnacle experiences.
Originally posted by @divegeesterWell, yes, that is what I was trying to say. I meant that, despite my loss of faith, and despite the major change my perception of Jesus underwent, I continue to perceive those experiences as being meaningful and influential.
Why do you refer to them as perceived experiences? Surely if you experienced the experience then it is a valid stand alone experience irrespective of your position on christianity today?
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09 Sep 17
Originally posted by @fmfIn what way were they meaningful and influential?
Well, yes, that is what I was trying to say. I meant that, despite my loss of faith, and despite the major change my perception of Jesus underwent, I continue to perceive those experiences as being meaningful and influential.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIn the ways and to the extent that I have already described.
In what way were they meaningful and influential?
09 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerNo need for any "in other words" version of your own invention. The words I posted are fine. I think a person's religiosity can and inevitably does permeate and affect pretty much all pinnacle experiences that a believer has. I have no need to go into any personal detail to illustrate this uncontroversial observation.
In other words, leave me alone.
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Originally posted by @fmfYour evasiveness to most of my questions is also fine.
No need for any "in other words" version of your own invention. The words I posted are fine. I think a person's religiosity can and inevitably does permeate and affect pretty much all pinnacle experiences that a believer has. I have no need to go into any personal detail to illustrate this uncontroversial observation.
09 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDoes your religiosity permeate and affect pretty much every pinnacle experience you have, and have had? It did for me - back when I was religious. I am not asking for examples. I am just asking if you agree with the observation.
Your evasiveness to most of my questions is also fine.