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    I saw this in the paper today:

    "As Aristotle noted, close, deep friendship is one of the pinnacles of human experience."

    Is it true?

    What other experiences out-pinnacle it?
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    08 Sep '17 14:30
    Originally posted by @fmf
    I saw this in the paper today:

    "As Aristotle noted, close, deep friendship is one of the pinnacles of human experience."

    Is it true?

    What other experiences out-pinnacle it?
    First sir, please evidence that 'out-pinnacle' is a viable word.
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    08 Sep '17 14:38
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    First sir, please evidence that 'out-pinnacle' is a viable word.
    I think it's Latin.
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    08 Sep '17 15:041 edit
    "What other experiences out-pinnacle it?"

    Passing off a clever remark as your own.
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    08 Sep '17 16:03
    Originally posted by @fmf
    I saw this in the paper today:

    "As Aristotle noted, close, deep friendship is one of the pinnacles of human experience."

    Is it true?

    What other experiences out-pinnacle it?
    It's definitely out-pinnacled by close, deep friendship with benefits.
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    Originally posted by @fmf
    I saw this in the paper today:

    "As Aristotle noted, close, deep friendship is one of the pinnacles of human experience."

    Is it true?

    What other experiences out-pinnacle it?
    Having a real supernatural experience when you realise how much Jesus loves you even if you have turned your back on Him.
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    09 Sep '17 00:17
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Having a real supernatural experience when you realise how much Jesus loves you even if you have turned your back on Him.
    For me personally, there were certainly some experiences related to my Christian beliefs that were pinnacles in my life. I'm not interested in describing them now but I still remember and perceive those experiences as meaningful and influential to me despite the fact that I have lost that faith and those beliefs in the meantime. Indeed, religiosity can and does permeate and affect all other pinnacle experiences.
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    09 Sep '17 05:19
    Originally posted by @fmf
    For me personally, there were certainly some experiences related to my Christian beliefs that were pinnacles in my life. I'm not interested in describing them now but I still remember and perceive those experiences as meaningful and influential to me despite the fact that I have lost that faith and those beliefs in the meantime. Indeed, religiosity can and does permeate and affect all other pinnacle experiences.
    Why do you refer to them as perceived experiences? Surely if you experienced the experience then it is a valid stand alone experience irrespective of your position on christianity today?
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    09 Sep '17 05:23
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Why do you refer to them as perceived experiences? Surely if you experienced the experience then it is a valid stand alone experience irrespective of your position on christianity today?
    Well, yes, that is what I was trying to say. I meant that, despite my loss of faith, and despite the major change my perception of Jesus underwent, I continue to perceive those experiences as being meaningful and influential.
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    09 Sep '17 05:25
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Well, yes, that is what I was trying to say. I meant that, despite my loss of faith, and despite the major change my perception of Jesus underwent, I continue to perceive those experiences as being meaningful and influential.
    In what way were they meaningful and influential?
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    09 Sep '17 05:28
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    In what way were they meaningful and influential?
    In the ways and to the extent that I have already described.
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    09 Sep '17 06:24
    Originally posted by @fmf
    In the ways and to the extent that I have already described.
    In other words, leave me alone.
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    09 Sep '17 06:35
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    In other words, leave me alone.
    No need for any "in other words" version of your own invention. The words I posted are fine. I think a person's religiosity can and inevitably does permeate and affect pretty much all pinnacle experiences that a believer has. I have no need to go into any personal detail to illustrate this uncontroversial observation.
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    09 Sep '17 07:24
    Originally posted by @fmf
    No need for any "in other words" version of your own invention. The words I posted are fine. I think a person's religiosity can and inevitably does permeate and affect pretty much all pinnacle experiences that a believer has. I have no need to go into any personal detail to illustrate this uncontroversial observation.
    Your evasiveness to most of my questions is also fine.
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    09 Sep '17 07:38
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Your evasiveness to most of my questions is also fine.
    Does your religiosity permeate and affect pretty much every pinnacle experience you have, and have had? It did for me - back when I was religious. I am not asking for examples. I am just asking if you agree with the observation.
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