1. Standard memberRBHILL
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    18 Mar '07 00:40
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Good. I'm glad we can agree that gays can be Christian.
    I just read Peter today.

    1 Peter 1:13-16
    13 So think clearly and exercise self-control. Look forward to the gracious salvation that will come to you when Jesus Christ is revealed to the world.
    14 So you must live as God’s obedient children. Don’t slip back into your old ways of living to satisfy your own desires. You didn’t know any better then.
    15 But now you must be holy in everything you do, just as God who chose you is holy.
    16 For the Scriptures say, “You must be holy because I am holy.”
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    18 Mar '07 00:48
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Jesus says lusting after someone is adultary so why not being gay. Sin is sin no matter how big or small who cares what I say or anyone else says sin is or isn't. Repent is what Jesus says and turn to God.
    First, I apparently didn't phrase my question correctly. Are married homosexuals (or homosexuals in a civil union) committing sin? Second, since I don't believe it's a sin, I (obviously) don't think they have anything for which to repent...
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    18 Mar '07 00:51
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    No, people are not born christians you have to become one.

    A person born in sin if he is gay or not. If he is not gay and accepts Christ, then christ will help him grow out of his bondage what ever it is.
    If a gay man comes to Christ, then Christ will help him come out of his sin bondage of being gay. And yes after he accepts Christ and has a gay experience again he can ask for forgiveness. And he will learn from his mistakes.
    Homophobe, what is wrong about two humans loving one another?

    The inconsistency in your position is that the prohibition against hemosexuality is from Leviticus 18. But in Acts 10:9 Peter's vision gets rid of all the dietary requirements from Leviticus, later the rule about circumcision went, so as long as you don't break promises then it is logical to include the rule from Leviticus 18 in that list. I really don't see why the modern church can't do what the ancient church did and drop some of this baggage.
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    18 Mar '07 00:531 edit
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    First, I apparently didn't phrase my question correctly. Are married homosexuals (or homosexuals in a civil union) committing sin? Second, since I don't believe it's a sin, I (obviously) don't think they have anything for which to repent...
    Have they ever lied, stole, dishonored there parents, misused the Lord's name, murdered, lusted broken all of the ten commandments.
    The Bible declares that no one is rightous and God is going to judge the world in rightousness. Jesus said he came to tell men from everywere to repent not just a few but everyone.

    This website will help you.

    www.wayfothemaster.com

    WDJD?
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    18 Mar '07 00:57
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Homophobe, what is wrong about two humans loving one another?

    The inconsistency in your position is that the prohibition against hemosexuality is from Leviticus 18. But in Acts 10:9 Peter's vision gets rid of all the dietary requirements from Leviticus, later the rule about circumcision went, so as long as you don't break promises then it is logical ...[text shortened]... ee why the modern church can't do what the ancient church did and drop some of this baggage.
    who care if someone is gay or not they are still lost until they accept Christ sacrifice. The Bible declares all kinds of sexual acts will have no part in the Kingdom of God.

    It also says that the whole world is lyers.

    And it also says that all lyers will be cast into the lake of fire.
    We are all gulty before a holy and just God. That is why you need to accept his only way of forgiveness.
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    18 Mar '07 00:57
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Have they ever lied, stole, dishonored there parents, misused the Lord's name, murdered, lusted broken all of the ten commandments.
    The Bible declares that no one is rightous and God is going to judge the world in rightousness. Jesus said he came to tell men from everywere to repent not just a few but everyone.

    This website will help you.

    www.wayfothemaster.com

    WDJD?
    Fine, again, sorry I mistyped...

    HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO REPENT FOR BEING HOMOSEXUAL...

    Want to correct another technicality on my part again? 😕
  7. Standard memberRBHILL
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    18 Mar '07 01:00
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    Fine, again, sorry I mistyped...

    HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO REPENT FOR BEING HOMOSEXUAL...

    Want to correct another technicality on my part again? 😕
    they need to repent for going astray.

    See I know you are lost and have never accepted Christ, but I know the devil is using you, if you want to believe that or not it is up to you and he is also using so called rightous reverend to change my topic of discussion. So God Bless you.
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    18 Mar '07 01:10
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    they need to repent for going astray.

    See I know you are lost and have never accepted Christ, but I know the devil is using you, if you want to believe that or not it is up to you and he is also using so called rightous reverend to change my topic of discussion. So God Bless you.
    If homosexuality is genetic, they haven't gone astray, they've been created that way. Created by the god who then condemns them for being gay? What? How fricked up is that?
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    18 Mar '07 01:11
    In God's Word in the Book of Joshua he says that God has set before us life, death or blessings and cursings. So choose life.
    So wheither someone is gay, or if they are straight and look at porn and murder people, lie, steal and so on they will live with curses and possibly die yuong.
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    18 Mar '07 01:12
    Originally posted by Starrman
    If homosexuality is genetic, they haven't gone astray, they've been created that way. Created by the god who then condemns them for being gay? What? How fricked up is that?
    People are born is sin.
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    18 Mar '07 01:141 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    In God's Word in the Book of Joshua he says that God has set before us life, death or blessings and cursings. So choose life.
    So wheither someone is gay, or if they are straight and look at porn and murder people, lie, steal and so on they will live with curses and possibly die yuong.
    Sorry, but the book of Joshua says God told Joshua to kill everybody that lived in Canaan that resisted the Israelite invasion.
    AND their children , too.
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    18 Mar '07 01:16
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    Sorry, but the book of Joshua says God told Joshua to kill everybody that lived in Canaan that resisted the Israelite invasion.
    AND their children , too.
    SO.
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    18 Mar '07 01:20
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    People are born is sin.
    That people like you are born is a sin.
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    18 Mar '07 01:211 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    they need to repent for going astray.

    See I know you are lost and have never accepted Christ, but I know the devil is using you, if you want to believe that or not it is up to you and he is also using so called rightous reverend to change my topic of discussion. So God Bless you.
    It's really sad, not to mention heartless, to hear someone convict me or anyone of not being Christian, or actually to be claimed by satin, solely because I'm trying to be Christian towards a certain group of people.

    I am Christian, and I am not homosexual, but I believe that God does not believe that homosexuals have sinned against him simply by being homosexuals, so I don't believe it either.
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    18 Mar '07 01:251 edit
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    It's really sad, not to mention heartless, to hear someone convict me or anyone of not being Christian, or actually to be claimed by satin, solely because [b]I'm trying to be Christian towards a certain group of people.

    I am Christian, and I am not homosexual, but I believe that God does not believe that homosexuals have sinned against him simply by being homosexuals, so I don't believe it either.[/b]
    Satin don't you mean Satan?

    How long have you been a Christian?

    That is funny just because people are nice to other people doesn't make someone a Christian. You don't say to a muslim or buddist, "oh that is very christian of you for walking that old lady across the street.
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