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what is your belief, mine is after we die we are judged, marked in some way then await the day of attonement to enter one gate or the other. tho i think this is how it will be i woundered if any other views
Originally posted by stokerPlease explain what you mean when you say 'we'. And what you mean by 'death'.
what is your belief, mine is after we die we are judged, marked in some way then await the day of attonement to enter one gate or the other. tho i think this is how it will be i woundered if any other views
Originally posted by stokerHow long after we die? I tend toward the soulsleep thing where we just kinda lie there in suspended animation, and our next conscious thought is being judged. But basically, I was taught same as you. 2 gates---1 good one---0 do-overs.
what is your belief, mine is after we die we are judged, marked in some way then await the day of attonement to enter one gate or the other. tho i think this is how it will be i woundered if any other views
Originally posted by stokerThere's no difference between the "I/me" and "body/flesh".
to clear a point the body/flesh returns to the earth. as earlier stated to be worm food. but the i and we is my soul by which god given and returns to god for judgement. tho i think it is done in the hour of our death, its more to do with what ive been given than learnt.
Originally posted by serigadoDo you have proof or is this something you prefer to believe in order for you to be "happier"? I don't think you're on firmer footing than those who believe that there is a "soul".
There's no difference between the "I/me" and "body/flesh".
Our mind is physical, there's no external soul attached to our bodies: that's a myth. It comes from the fear of men being mortal and ending its existence when they die. The sooner people accept this, the happier they will be.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneHe is on much firmer footing because he can explain what he is talking about. Those who believe there is a 'soul' cannot.
Do you have proof or is this something you prefer to believe in order for you to be "happier"? I don't think you're on firmer footing than those who believe that there is a "soul".
Originally posted by stokerUnconciousness. Freedom from pain, never again to feel pleasure...ceasing to exist.
what is your belief, mine is after we die we are judged, marked in some way then await the day of attonement to enter one gate or the other. tho i think this is how it will be i woundered if any other views
Originally posted by twhiteheadOh c'mon. There's no "proof" either way. In my mind it's foolish to make either assertion as definite.
He is on much firmer footing because he can explain what he is talking about. Those who believe there is a 'soul' cannot.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungPretty much just ceasing to exist. It's almost impossible for alive people to imagine that, but that's what I believe too.
Unconciousness. Freedom from pain, never again to feel pleasure...ceasing to exist.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThe default is to not believe something exists unless there is at least significant evidence that it does exist - such as the tooth fairy.
Oh c'mon. There's no "proof" either way. In my mind it's foolish to make either assertion as definite.
Realistically, the "explanation" is based on ignorance. "This is outside the current understanding of the mind, so it must not be true". The understand of the mind is in its infancy.