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Originally posted by DasaI hate to encroach on another thread, but I wonder if you could respond to my request posted under "Vedas and Islam".
I HAVE SAID YOU MUST NOT BORROW FROM WHAT ALREADY EXISTS.
Many thanks
Originally posted by stellspalfieThat is the problem.
is that including all known particles? can we use our language to describe the universe?
Originally posted by Dasa
That is the problem.
Cheating science has told us all that everything that exists has come to us without plan or cause or intelligent process and without conscious will...........so now that we have conscious will and creative thought we should be able to create anew an entirely new and pristine creation which of course would be far better that what we have. ...[text shortened]... minal.
It is criminal because you would then go on a abuse children by teaching them falsity.
Cheating science has told us all that everything that exists has come to us without plan or cause or intelligent process and without conscious will...
Originally posted by Dasacan you explain why you think that if the human brain cant recreate the universe from scratch - that god must exist?
That is the problem.
And you would have to come up with something better than language .
Even with your brain and mind and creative intelligence you CANNOT do it better than what already exists.
And this is why God exists and atheism is defeated once and for all.
To continue as an atheist now is criminal.
It is criminal because you would then go on a abuse children by teaching them falsity.
Originally posted by Dasabwahahahahahahahahahahaha
Atheism was defeated in this forum on the 16th of May 2012.
It was defeated long before that - but for the forum dwellers it was defeated once again.
It was defeated because no person with their conscious intelligence and creative potency can design a new world/universe/cosmos ........from scratch without borrowing from what already exist.
Apparently ...[text shortened]... y your criminality in this forum for all to see.
You probably will because you are shameless.
Originally posted by karoly aczel"Spirituality is not a game. It is not a race. "
I think in the "higher realms" (or whatever you want to call it ,ie "heaven",etc.), there is no competition like we have here amongst the more primitive religionists and such.
So the thread title is a complete put off.
Spirituality is not a game. It is not a race.
The only thing you can "win" is control and grace over your own being.
The idea ...[text shortened]... spot- the most notorious murderer of his time, some one who had killed many people)
Originally posted by DasaWe don't teach atheism to children. We think it through ourselves as adults. Where did you get the idea we would do that? I think it must be because YOU would teach, no PROGRAM your children or any you could come in contact with and therefore would naturally think atheists would do the same.
That is the problem.
Cheating science has told us all that everything that exists has come to us without plan or cause or intelligent process and without conscious will...........so now that we have conscious will and creative thought we should be able to create anew an entirely new and pristine creation which of course would be far better that what we have. ...[text shortened]... minal.
It is criminal because you would then go on a abuse children by teaching them falsity.
Originally posted by Dasayour reasoning faculties have failed you. having conscious will and creative thought does not mean we can create an entirely new creation, never mind one that is far better than what we have.
That is the problem.
Cheating science has told us all that everything that exists has come to us without plan or cause or intelligent process and without conscious will...........so now that we have conscious will and creative thought we should be able to create anew an entirely new and pristine creation which of course would be far better that what we have.
Originally posted by JS357Yes , they should go together like pie and cream (religion and spirituality), but if one side breaks down (usually the religionists side) then the harmony is lost and we are back to having a slugging match.
"Spirituality is not a game. It is not a race. "
And science is not in competition with spirituality. Anyone -- anyone -- who treats science as if it competes -- successfully or not -- with spirituality, is mistaken.
That is, anyone who treats spiritual statements as being in competition with those of science, is wrong.
It does not matter which one he ...[text shortened]... ais is all that "science" wants to say about spirituality. It is not in competition with it.