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Deification of man

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@sonship said
Being glorified in the saints is not verses obeying Christ.
Saints are all human beings in whom the Spirit of Christ is.

"Yet if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ he is not of Him." (Rom. 8:9)

Not all will be rewarded with this manifestation as sons at the same time.
All saints will eventually be manifested as sons of God.

Because not ...[text shortened]... glory of this mystery among the Gentiles which is Christ in you the hope of glory." (Col. 1:27)[/b]
This is shameless cherry-picking nonsense. More than 75% of the writings of the Apostles were about telling the Saints in Christ, how to practice a living faith and consequences of practicing dead faith like you do:

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. (Galatians 6:7-8 KJV)

Stop deluding yourself.
If they live in the flesh they get damnation
If they live in the Sprit THEN they get eternal life


Again, Christian Saints have NO INHERITANCE in the Kingdom of God, if they continue with sin:

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21 KJV)

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@divegeester

Then there should be no need for you to ask about joining the Godhead.
You already know what I would say.

The pompous jackass is you, re-asking what you know my answer to already.

The pompous acting one is you lying with your behavior like your issue has gone unaddressed.

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The expected pushback is now "Is that anyway a deified person should talk?"

Divegeester pompously re-asks about what he knows full well what my answer is.

In the local churches we do not mean deification to refer to joining the Godhead so that we are the Godhead.

He knows that.

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@sonship said
In the local churches we do not mean deification to refer to joining the Godhead so that we are the Godhead.

He knows that.
I don't think Lee did.

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I showed you how to use the search engine for all of the online books of Witness Lee. I sampled the word "deification" and got even the counts of occurrences in those books for you.

Go find a use of the word "deification" or "deify" which clearly says believers become the Godhead.

Here again are the books with occurrences of the word "deification".

https://www.ministrybooks.org/SearchMinBooks.cfm

24 Truth Concerning the Ultimate Goal of God's Economy, The
6 Life-Study of 1 & 2 Samuel
6 Life-Study of 1 & 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther
4 Life-Study of 2 Peter
3 Conclusion of the New Testament, The (Msgs. 001-020)
3 Life-Study of Galatians
2 Move of God in Man, The
1 Life-Study of Job
1 Christian Life, The
1 Life-Study of Colossians
1 Crystallization-Study Outlines—Colossians
1 God's New Testament Economy
1 Life-Study of Exodus
1 Life-Study of Philippians
1 Conclusion of the New Testament, The (Msgs. 415-436)
1 Deeper Study of the Divine Dispensing, A


@sonship said
I showed you how to use the search engine for all of the online books of Witness Lee. I sampled the word "deification" and got even the counts of occurrences in those books for you.

Go find a use of the word "deification" or "deify" which clearly says believers become the Godhead.

Here again are the books with occurrences of the word "deification".

https://www.mini ...[text shortened]...
1 Conclusion of the New Testament, The (Msgs. 415-436)
1 Deeper Study of the Divine Dispensing, A
Again, how is the word deification not appearing in Lee's work any different than Trinity not appearing in the Bible?

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Again, how is the word deification not appearing in Lee's work any different than Trinity not appearing in the Bible?


?!? This is irrelevant to what is being argued here.

You are not thinking or not reading or not doing something.

The word deification APPEARS in writings of Witness Lee.
I showed you one quote which said he didn't like to use it.
But obviously he did use it.

In the list of books by Witness Lee where "deification" appears select one that has man becoming a part of the Godhead. Use the search engine at www.ministrybooks.org . I already got the statistics for you. You can examine EVERY page or paragraph where it appeared.

If you cannot grasp the point I am making it is that "deification" did not mean to Witness Lee that man becomes the Godhead. That is the charge critics here are making.


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@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Again, how is the word deification not appearing in Lee's work any different than Trinity not appearing in the Bible?


?!? This is irrelevant to what is being argued here.

You are not thinking or not reading or not doing something.

The word deification APPEARS in writings of Witness Lee.
I showed you one quote which said he didn ...[text shortened]... d not mean to Witness Lee that man becomes the Godhead. That is the charge critics here are making.
Here you go:

'Ultimately, the church is a group of people who are in union with the Triune God and are mingled with the Triune God. The Triune God and the church are four-in-one. Because the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are all one with the Body of Christ, we may say that the Triune God is now the “four-in-one God.” These four are the Father, the Son, the Spirit, and the Body.'

'…In this way the believers become the reproduction, expansion, and physical continuation of the incarnate and incorporate Son of God and indeed the organism of the Triune God Himself.'

Witness Lee, A Deeper Study of the Divine Dispensing p.203-204


@sonship

Really try and focus on believers becoming the "organism of the Triune God Himself."

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke


'Ultimately, the church is a group of people who are in union with the Triune God and are mingled with the Triune God. The Triune God and the church are four-in-one. Because the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are all one with the Body of Christ, we may say that the Triune God is now the “four-in-one God.” These four are the Father, the Son, the Spirit, and the Body.'


Where in that paragraph does it say the church is the Godhead?

I see it says the Father, the Son, the Spirit and the church are one.

Where does it say the church is the Godhead?


Let's take it sentence by sentence.

1.) 'Ultimately, the church is a group of people who are in union with the Triune God and are mingled with the Triune God.

Where in this sentence does it say the church is the Godhead?

And this is a reflection of what Jesus prayed for in John 17.

2.) "The Triune God and the church are four-in-one."

Where in this sentence does it say the church is the Godhead?

3.) " Because the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are all one with the Body of Christ, we may say that the Triune God is now the “four-in-one God.”

Where in this sentence does it say the church is the Godhead?

The Spirit and the Bride in Revelation speak together.
We may say that is the two in one union.

4.) " These four are the Father, the Son, the Spirit, and the Body."

That's right. The four are in union. Where does it say the church is the Godhead?
And where in the paragraph is the word deification?


In the same book other explanations are read. [my bolding]

In order to accomplish this economy, God must be triune. He is not merely God, but He is the Triune God—the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. We call this the Divine Trinity. The Father is the source; the Son is the expression, manifested among us; and the Spirit is the reaching to us and the entrance into us of the Triune God. The Father is in the Son, the Son becomes the Spirit, and the Spirit enters into us to be the reality of the Triune God. When the Spirit comes, the Son comes, and the Father also comes. Hence, the Spirit is the totality of the Divine Trinity and is also the ultimate consummation of the Divine Trinity. The Father is expressed in the Son. The Son is realized as the Spirit. The Spirit is the reality of the Triune God coming to us and entering into us to be our life. He is mingled with us and shares with us the same living.

Paul’s fourteen Epistles, found after the Gospel of John, speak of God’s economy. He tells us in a rich and profound way how the Divine Trinity—the Father, the Son, and the Spirit—passed through the many processes to come to us, to be with us, and even to enter into us to be our life.


The divine dispensing of God the Father to the Body of Christ in His being over all, as the Father’s overshadowing, in His being through all, as the Son’s care and concern, and in His being in all, as the Spirit’s presence, enabling all the members of the Body of Christ to experience the Triune God and enjoy His rich presence—Eph. 4:6.
Ephesians 4:6
One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.


Finally, he refers to the one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. This is the Triune God.


You're sounding false alarms.

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