1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    01 Sep '12 18:37
    What do you guys think about this?

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  2. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    01 Sep '12 18:51
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What do you guys think about this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BEIWjjUCPM
    I'd tell you, but you didn't help out my thread so up yours. 😛 😉
  3. Standard memberRJHinds
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    01 Sep '12 19:02
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    I'd tell you, but you didn't help out my thread so up yours. 😛 😉
    Okay. Fair enough. 😏
  4. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    01 Sep '12 19:24
    The kid is evil, stay away. 🙁
  5. Standard memberRJHinds
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    01 Sep '12 22:03
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    The kid is evil, stay away. 🙁
    He has just had some bad influence from unbelievers.
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    01 Sep '12 22:05
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    He has just had some bad influence from unbelievers.
    Maybe he doesn't believe in the trinity.
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    01 Sep '12 22:09
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What do you guys think about this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BEIWjjUCPM
    I simply cannot understand the atheistic motivations. I can somewhat understand the agnostics, not knowing for sure either way, leaving the possibility open, no great motivation for them to try to convince the world of their belief or lack thereof. The atheists, however, feel that they can authoritatively state that there is no higher power, and they feel they must convince the entire world of the correctness of their assertions. This puzzles me, in that why should they care what others believe? By what supreme knowledge can they categorically determine that there is no God? The fact they have not sought him, and therefore have not found him, does not imply that he is not there.
  8. Standard memberRJHinds
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    01 Sep '12 22:21
    Originally posted by CLL53
    I simply cannot understand the atheistic motivations. I can somewhat understand the agnostics, not knowing for sure either way, leaving the possibility open, no great motivation for them to try to convince the world of their belief or lack thereof. The atheists, however, feel that they can authoritatively state that there is no higher power, and they feel th ...[text shortened]... they have not sought him, and therefore have not found him, does not imply that he is not there.
    There is strength in numbers. The more people he can get to believe his nonsense and go along with him the more arrogant and powerful he feels about his false belief.
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    01 Sep '12 22:54
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    There is strength in numbers. The more people he can get to believe his nonsense and go along with him the more arrogant and powerful he feels about his false belief.
    That must be it. Convince the feeble minded that there is no higher power.
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    02 Sep '12 00:03
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Maybe he doesn't believe in the trinity.
    Or maybe he's bright enough to see the trinity for what it truly is and since all the big churches teach it and say it is a truth, he has come to the conclusion it's all lies.
    Another trick of satan to turn all he can away from learning who God truly is. He either blinds ones who fall for false doctrines or to the other extreem is able to completely turn them off from God and his book the bible.
    Either way satan wins.
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    02 Sep '12 05:45
    Originally posted by galveston75
    He either blinds ones who fall for false doctrines
    Irony, much?
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    02 Sep '12 05:50
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What do you guys think about this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BEIWjjUCPM
    I bet his parents are so proud.
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    02 Sep '12 05:581 edit
    Originally posted by CLL53
    The atheists, however, feel that they can authoritatively state that there is no higher power, and they feel they must convince the entire world of the correctness of their assertions. .
    Rubbish!

    I couldn't care less what others believe; providing their beliefs do not impinge
    on my life I say "live and let live", I certainly do not try and convince believers
    not to believe (although I may challenge them over certain points). Like most,
    if not all, atheists here I think i am far more tolerant of religions than the
    narrow-minded theists. Its normally the atheists who defend the JWs, Muslims
    and Jews from attacks. (I recently reported RJH's racist post against Jews and
    it was removed).

    And finally ... when was the last time anyone had atheists come knocking at their door trying to sell them copies of The God Delusion?
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    02 Sep '12 06:41
    Originally posted by CLL53
    I simply cannot understand the atheistic motivations. I can somewhat understand the agnostics, not knowing for sure either way, leaving the possibility open, no great motivation for them to try to convince the world of their belief or lack thereof. The atheists, however, feel that they can authoritatively state that there is no higher power, and they feel th ...[text shortened]... they have not sought him, and therefore have not found him, does not imply that he is not there.
    I simply cannot understand the theistic motivations. I can somewhat understand the agnostics, not knowing for sure either way, leaving the possibility open, no great motivation for them to try to convince the world of their belief or lack thereof. The theists, however, feel that they can authoritatively state that there is a higher power, and they feel they must convince the entire world of the correctness of their assertions. This puzzles me, in that why should they care what others believe? By what supreme knowledge can they categorically determine that there is a God? The fact they have sought him, and therefore have found him, does not imply that he is there.
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    Around and around in circles we go, yet again.

    So yet again, I quote:

    "Do Buddhists believe in god?

    No, we do not. There are several reasons for this. The Buddha, like modern sociologists and psychologists, believed that religious ideas, and especially the god idea, have their origin in fear.

    The Buddha says:

    "Gripped by fear men go to the sacred mountains,
    sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines".

    Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world. The fear of wild animals; of not being able to find enough food; of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of gods in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong.

    To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, and you will hear them say that the belief in a god or gods gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in a particular god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered. All this seems to support the Buddha’s teaching that the god-idea is a response to fear and frustration.
    The Buddha taught us to try to understand our fears, to lessen our desires and to calmly and courageously accept the things we cannot change. He replaced fear not with irrational belief, but with rational understanding.


    The second reason the Buddha did not believe in a god is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god’s words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god’s nature and that their god exists, and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine; some that she is feminine; and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god, but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions, spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods, that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found. Buddhists suspend judgment until such evidence is forthcoming.


    The third reason the Buddha did not believe in a god is that the belief is not necessary. Some claim that the belief in a god is necessary in order to explain the origin of the universe, but Buddhists believe this is not so. Science has very convincingly explained how the universe came into being, without having to introduce the god-idea. Some claim that belief in god is necessary to have a happy, meaningful life. Again we can see that this is not so.
    There are millions of atheists and free-thinkers, not to mention many Buddhists, who live useful, happy and meaningful lives without belief in a god. Some claim that belief in god’s power is necessary because humans, being weak, do not have the strength to help themselves.

    Once again, the evidence indicates the opposite. One often hears of people who have overcome great disabilities and handicaps; enormous odds and difficulties, through their own inner resources; through their own efforts and without belief in a god. Some claim that god is necessary in order to give man salvation. but this argument only holds good if you accept the theological concept of salvation and Buddhists do not accept such a concept.

    Based on his own experience, the Buddha saw that each human being had the capacity to purify the mind, develop infinite love and compassion and perfect understanding.
    He shifted attention from the heavens to the heart, and He encouraged us to find solutions to our problems through self-understanding.

    -m.
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