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    Not many Christian teachers have good teaching on demonology. It becomes sensationalism with many.

    Brother Derek Prince has some helpful things which are biblical and much experience with demons.

    How Demons Can Cause Negative Thinking
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    Christ is the answer to harrassment by evil spirits.
    Christ is the answer to the entire problem of the fallen mankind infested with sin, separated from God.
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    @sonship said
    Not many Christian teachers have good teaching on demonology. It becomes sensationalism with many.

    Brother Derek Prince has some helpful things which are biblical and much experience with demons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnr97uGmIc8

    Christ is the answer to harrassment by evil spirits.
    Christ is the answer to the entire problem of the fallen mankind infested with sin, separated from God.
    Are you inviting discussion; if so about what aspect in particular?
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    @divegeester said
    Are you inviting discussion; if so about what aspect in particular?
    I'm reluctant to follow the link in case evil spirits are convoluted with mental health disorders.

    That would be too depressing to read.
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    @sonship said
    Brother Derek Prince has some helpful things which are biblical and much experience with demons.
    What an ideal opportunity to gather evidence for demons and/or god.
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    I would discuss with those who watch the video.
    I was relieved to learn something about demonic spirits.

    You might be helped to see who "the torturers" might be in the NT.
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    @sonship said
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    I would discuss with those who watch the video.
    I was relieved to learn something about demonic spirits.

    You might be helped to see who "the torturers" might be in the NT.
    Why will I be “relieved” ?

    What is it you want to discus?
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    How To Pass From Curse to Blessing by Derek Prince complete Has been viewed by 1,622,059 views

    ( don't bother telling me that means nothing. It might mean something ).

    YouTube

    I said that I was relieved to learn about demons.

    It is often a relief for a ill person to get a diagnosis of a problem. Then you understand what you are up against. The same is true in the spiritual realm. Sometimes when oppressed for long periods of time it is a relief for someone to have a diagnosis which reveals more of where the problem lies.

    Realism can be a relief.

    Many people keep their Bible shut because they do not want to be bothered by God. Their attitude needs to change and realize that it is God's love seeking to expose the enemy working in darkness.

    It is good to come to His word with a prayer saying "Lord God, YOU are NOT the enemy."

    This lecture is long. It covers curses, blessings, habits, national problems, healings, practical ways to be delivered from spiritual illnesses. Though it is long, it is worth the time, I think.

    IT gets better as Derek Prince goes into his experiences. It is not just theory.
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    @sonship said
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    How To Pass From Curse to Blessing by Derek Prince complete Has been viewed by 1,622,059 views

    ( don't bother telling me that means nothing. It might mean something ).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj5xbqqIuE8

    I said that I was relieved to learn about demons.

    It is often a relief for a ill person to get a diagnosis of a proble ...[text shortened]... time, I think.

    IT gets better as Derek Prince goes into his experiences. It is not just theory.
    What is the name, face or manifestation of the demon you are relieved to know about?
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    What is the name, face or manifestation of the demon you are relieved to know about?
    Based on jaywill's posting history one would be the taking-words-out-of-context demon.

    I'm relieved to know that a cure may be on its way.

    Of course, there are more, but it'd be a start.
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    Based on jaywill's posting history one would be the taking-words-out-of-context demon.

    I'm relieved to know that a cure may be on its way.

    Of course, there are more, but it'd be a start.
    I strongly suspect, although sonship denies it, that this thread was aimed at me.
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    Thread update:

    1. There are no such things as demons (in the sense implied).
    2. There is no such thing as a 'spiritual illness' (just 'illnesses.' )
    3. Curses have no intellectual place beyond the 17th century.
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    Thread update:

    1. There are no such things as demons (in the sense implied).
    2. There is no such thing as a 'spiritual illness' (just 'illnesses.' )
    3. Curses have no intellectual place beyond the 17th century.


    So says the "Spirited Misfit".

    Your proof of the three updates ?

    Do you think modernization can in some instances cause societies to lose touch with actual phenomenon that people in the past recognized has having validity? Do you think modernization can cause some knowledge gained in the past to be lost?

    A Yes or a No would suffice for now.

    Do you think modernization can never cause a loss of legitimate knowledge of the world but ONLY increase?
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    @sonship said
    Do you think modernization can in some instances cause societies to lose touch with actual phenomenon that people in the past recognized has having validity? Do you think modernization can cause some knowledge gained in the past to be lost?

    A Yes or a No would suffice for now.

    Do you think modernization can never cause a loss of legitimate knowledge of the world but ONLY increase?
    What do you make of "knowledge gained in the past" regarding things like trepanation, use of mercury, and things like bloodletting, or vaginal massages to treat nervousness and irritability in women? Did not people in the past recognize these as having validity?
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    @sonship said
    Do you think modernization can never cause a loss of legitimate knowledge of the world but ONLY increase?
    On what basis are you claiming to have "legitimate knowledge" about "demons"?
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    @sonship said
    Do you think modernization can cause some knowledge gained in the past to be lost?

    A Yes or a No would suffice for now.
    Demons, curses, witches and the like are not 'knowledge' that has been lost, but superstitious nonsense eradicated by modern understanding.
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