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    26 May '07 11:41
    has a given birth to a baby boy. What do the conservative Christians on the site think of this?
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    26 May '07 14:21
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    has a given birth to a baby boy. What do the conservative Christians on the site think of this?
    Those shameless self-promoters have already started posting pictures of the baby!

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/redrua/415097945/
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    26 May '07 14:23
    Originally posted by bbarr
    Those shameless self-promoters have already started posting pictures of the baby!

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/redrua/415097945/
    Lol, v funny!
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    26 May '07 16:20
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    has a given birth to a baby boy. What do the conservative Christians on the site think of this?
    Aren't they committed to believing that he is the product of sin, just like any other little bastard born out of wedlock?
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    26 May '07 16:50
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    has a given birth to a baby boy. What do the conservative Christians on the site think of this?
    The usual stuff.
    Everybody is throwing it in Gods' face. "Hey, look what I can do. And nobody can stop me!"
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    26 May '07 18:26
    Originally posted by josephw
    The usual stuff.
    Everybody is throwing it in Gods' face. "Hey, look what I can do. And nobody can stop me!"
    Who is throwing what in God's face? Are you disapproving of this baby in this relationship?
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    26 May '07 19:30
    Originally posted by josephw
    The usual stuff.
    Everybody is throwing it in Gods' face. "Hey, look what I can do. And nobody can stop me!"
    How about "Hey, we love each other and want to be a family, and it's nobody else's business."
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    27 May '07 01:231 edit
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    has a given birth to a baby boy. What do the conservative Christians on the site think of this?
    I suppose you are looking for a post that says something to the effect that such an occurance is sinful and that something must be done about it. However, what authority do I have in objecting? After all, the laws of man do not restrict her from what she does and God does not prevent her from what she does, so what do I have to say about it? After all, she is simply operating her own free will as I do and what she values and loves is reflected in her choices just as it is for me. God will then be her judge just as he is for me.

    On the other hand if you are looking for my opinion, it is my opinion that fathers are needed just as mothers are. Both sexes have a role to play that the other cannot fill as well. That is, if you believe there to be differences in the sexes in how they relate to their offspring. Perhaps the boy can find father figures who can help fill that void.
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    27 May '07 02:20
    Originally posted by whodey
    I suppose you are looking for a post that says something to the effect that such an occurance is sinful and that something must be done about it. However, what authority do I have in objecting? After all, the laws of man do not restrict her from what she does and God does not prevent her from what she does, so what do I have to say about it? After all, she ...[text shortened]... relate to their offspring. Perhaps the boy can find father figures who can help fill that void.
    You may have commented on this somewhere else, but do you have an opinion about why she turned into a lesbian inspite of having a father figure in her life?
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    27 May '07 02:30
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    You may have commented on this somewhere else, but do you have an opinion about why she turned into a lesbian inspite of having a father figure in her life?
    I don't recall ever comenting on this before but I will answer your question. I am not convinced that being a lesbian necessarily is due to not having a father figure around. Human behavior is hard to discern in terms of its causes. There is an environmental factors, genetic factors, spiritual factors etc. for our behavoir. What I am saying, however, is that children seem to need both mother and father. For example, the mother typically is the nurturer and the father the authority figure. Both are needed and if absent WILL effect the childrens development in some way.
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    27 May '07 02:38
    Originally posted by whodey
    Both are needed and if absent WILL effect the childrens development in some way.
    That's a very wooly, totally unsubstantiated by evidence, claim you make there. Care to back it up with data?
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    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    That's a very wooly, totally unsubstantiated by evidence, claim you make there. Care to back it up with data?
    Perhaps saying that both mother and father are "needed" except in terms of biological reproduction requires proof, however, it is only common sense that not having a father or mother will effect the child in some way whether positively or negatively or perhaps you think you may have turned out the same with two moms or two dads?

    Speaking from personal experience, however, I have encountered a handful of lesbian couples with children. From my obeservations the children tended to be "unruly" in many respects. I percieved this to be a result of a lack of an authority figure. Although such observations mean nothing in terms of proving anything perhaps it is why I have said what I have said. I don't think that being raised by lesbian couples dictates that children turn out "bad", whatever you choose this to mean. However, it does effect them in some way. The 64 dollar question then becomes how?
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    Originally posted by whodey
    The 64 dollar question then becomes how?
    They'll probably eat significantly more fish.
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    27 May '07 03:13
    Originally posted by whodey
    I suppose you are looking for a post that says something to the effect that such an occurance is sinful and that something must be done about it. However, what authority do I have in objecting? After all, the laws of man do not restrict her from what she does and God does not prevent her from what she does, so what do I have to say about it? After all, she ...[text shortened]... relate to their offspring. Perhaps the boy can find father figures who can help fill that void.
    It is your opinion that a father figure is needed. What does god say about it?
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    27 May '07 03:14
    Originally posted by whodey
    Perhaps saying that both mother and father are "needed" except in terms of biological reproduction requires proof, however, it is only common sense that not having a father or mother will effect the child in some way whether positively or negatively or perhaps you think you may have turned out the same with two moms or two dads?

    Speaking from personal expe ...[text shortened]... ean. However, it does effect them in some way. The 64 dollar question then becomes how?
    On the other hand, socio-economic factors are probably a far better indicator of how the child will turn out. If that is, indeed, the case, shouldn't we be more concerned about the welfare system than worrying about two lesbians having a baby between them?
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