Originally posted by kirksey957That's funny. I would think you would know the biblical answer to that proposition.
Do you think gays hate God?
People don't sit around thinking about how much they hate God. But it becomes apparent how much they do when they begin to speak. I'm sure you've read shavixmir's thread, (calling out God). And the others too.
Originally posted by josephwWell, if God loves everyone equally, then this is as equally good as any other scenario, and you should keep your trap shut. God doesn't have a problem with it apparently; do you think you are in a better position to judge than your God???
No I'm not. And don't try to put me in that stereotypical box. God doesn't hate people. People hate people. But that's another topic.
Originally posted by scottishinnzYou lost me there. What on earth are you talking about?
Well, if God loves everyone equally, then this is as equally good as any other scenario, and you should keep your trap shut. God doesn't have a problem with it apparently; do you think you are in a better position to judge than your God???
Originally posted by josephwI haven't read all of it. I do , however, compliment him for being honest with who he is. You don't have to like what he says.
That's funny. I would think you would know the biblical answer to that proposition.
People don't sit around thinking about how much they hate God. But it becomes apparent how much they do when they begin to speak. I'm sure you've read shavixmir's thread, (calling out God). And the others too.
I know a lot of gays who love Jesus. Teach Sunday school and all that.
Originally posted by kirksey957I like people. I like debating with you and everyone else. I separate my feelings about people and what they say or do. I don't always like what they say or do. And it's not my place to judge a person, but I'm free to judge what they say or do.
I haven't read all of it. I do , however, compliment him for being honest with who he is. You don't have to like what he says.
I know a lot of gays who love Jesus. Teach Sunday school and all that.
Jesus said "if you love me you'll obey me." The bible is clear about homosexuality.
Just because a person is saved doesn't automatically make them perfect. I got "saved" 25 years ago, and it took years for me to purge myself of destructive behavior. I'm still not where I should be. I like the verse in Philippians that says, "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:"
I understand that the church's official stand on homosexuality should not contradict the bible, but what I don't understand is why Christians are so obsessed with homosexuality. The subtlety of unrepented bigotry seizes on scripture to justify its own ends and neglects Christ's call to love our neighbors as ourselves. Jesus Christ demands love, preeminently above every other aspect of God's law. It is not a Christian's job to judge others, but to simply carry the Good News to the world: "Come back to God!" A Christian's concern should be first an foremost to extend God's kingdom into the lives of all people, without regard to their sexuality.
Originally posted by josephwAgain a wild unfounded statement based on the typical human belief that everything was better in our parents time. Illegitimate children has been a fact of life throughout recorded history. I know of no statistics that will even remotely back up your claim other than the population is bigger so there must be more illegitimate children.
There are more illegitimate children today than ever.
Come to Cape Town some time and you will find that the proportion of people of mixed race is astounding considering that mixed race marriage has been frowned on or banned here for centuries.
Even Jesus was illegitimate.
Originally posted by josephwIf the Bible is clear about homosexuality and the Bible says they should be killed, I encourage you to be as clear as the Bible and come out and say "homosexuals should be killed because the Bible says so."
I like people. I like debating with you and everyone else. I separate my feelings about people and what they say or do. I don't always like what they say or do. And it's not my place to judge a person, but I'm free to judge what they say or do.
Jesus said "if you love me you'll obey me." The bible is clear about homosexuality.
Just because a person is ...[text shortened]... which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:"
Originally posted by josephwThere is a wonderful opportunity for you to affirm Shavixmir in the general forums in his thread about "floppy labias". Even he sounds "Christian" in his ethical stance. I once heard the great evangelical preacher Tony Compolo deride our culture in the same way.
That's funny. I would think you would know the biblical answer to that proposition.
People don't sit around thinking about how much they hate God. But it becomes apparent how much they do when they begin to speak. I'm sure you've read shavixmir's thread, (calling out God). And the others too.
Originally posted by kirksey957But he'd be lying because it doesn't say that in Leviticus 18:22. It doesn't say that they should be killed and it doesn't address women lying with women.
If the Bible is clear about homosexuality and the Bible says they should be killed, I encourage you to be as clear as the Bible and come out and say "homosexuals should be killed because the Bible says so."
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Originally posted by pawnhandlerLev 20:13
But he'd be lying because it doesn't say that in Leviticus 18:22. It doesn't say that they should be killed and it doesn't address women lying with women.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.