Did Christ teach the local church?

Originally posted by @rajk999
If I say only Jesus knows who is saved.
Then obviously I do no know.
Are you that dense?

Then how do you reconcile that position with John 3:16, Romans 10:9 and the numerous verses in the Bible that say how one obtains salvation?

Originally posted by @romans1009
Yes, and I addressed this point earlier, (though I don’t remember in which thread.)

Paul is telling Christian Jews that they cannot abandon Christianity and the New Covenant and go back to the sacrificial system they knew in Judaism (sacrificing animals to atone for sins.)

And Romans 6:1-12?

'What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?'

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
And Romans 6:1-12?

'What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?'

I gotta head out right now but I’ll get back to that tonight

Originally posted by @romans1009
I gotta head out right now but I’ll get back to that tonight

But I didn't even get to 1 John 3:6:

'No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.'

Originally posted by @romans1009
Then how do you reconcile that position with John 3:16, Romans 10:9 and the numerous verses in the Bible that say how one obtains salvation?

Only Jesus knows who believes in Him. Simple.
Many will proclaim faith. Only some with be true faith.
Only Jesus knows.
The pastor does not know

Originally posted by @rajk999
The Church is the Body of Christ
The Body of Christ is his brethren / children of God
His brethren are all those who love Him
All who love him are those who follow his commandments.

All who do evil and continue with a life of sin are not his brethren.

Mans classification of church is useless in the eyes of God.

And everyone in that body must affirm the Nicene Creed or they are actually heretics who are dissuading from the real teachings of Christ by actively distorting them.

But, I think I made it rather CLEAR, that I am not that interested in like... beshatting the views of other people and quibbling among Christians.

Originally posted by @philokalia
And everyone in that body must affirm the Nicene Creed or they are actually heretics who are dissuading from the real teachings of Christ by actively distorting them.

But, I think I made it rather CLEAR, that I am not that interested in like... beshatting the views of other people and quibbling among Christians.

What is the Nicene Creed? Is that somewhere in the bible?
Please provide a reference.
Thanks

Originally posted by @rajk999
What is the Nicene Creed? Is that somewhere in the bible?
Please provide a reference.
Thanks

We can play a silly game where I type a couple hundred words, but let me bullet this:

>Nicene Creed is a statement of faith based on the Bible and analysis of the Trinity.
>Nicene creed is the most basic, simple statement that covers difficult theological issues.
>it combatted the heretical views of Arias & Origen.

Etc.

So, what's wrong with the Nicene creed and what's wrong with the Trinity and ... like... 98% of CHristianity which affirms it.

How about isntead of me explaining why 98% of Christianity & 99% of historic Christianity is completely justified in its ivew of the Bible...

You do some footwork for us.

Originally posted by @philokalia
We can play a silly game where I type a couple hundred words, but let me bullet this:

>Nicene Creed is a statement of faith based on the Bible and analysis of the Trinity.
>Nicene creed is the most basic, simple statement that covers difficult theological issues.
>it combatted the heretical views of Arias & Origen.

Etc.

So, what's wrong wi ...[text shortened]... Christianity is completely justified in its ivew of the Bible...

You do some footwork for us.

98% aka the broad road that leads to damnation
2% - the narrow way that leads to eternal life.

Trinity? What is that?
Have a reference?

Originally posted by @philokalia
We can play a silly game where I type a couple hundred words, but let me bullet this:

>Nicene Creed is a statement of faith based on the Bible and analysis of the Trinity.
>Nicene creed is the most basic, simple statement that covers difficult theological issues.
>it combatted the heretical views of Arias & Origen.

Etc.

So, what's wrong wi ...[text shortened]... Christianity is completely justified in its ivew of the Bible...

You do some footwork for us.

98% of Christians affirm the Trinty?!

I'm not certain 98% even understand it.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
98% of Christians affirm the Trinty?!

I'm not certain 98% even understand it.

Which is fortunately not a necessity.

However, you have to affirm it.

As James White has said... it is almost impossible for most protestants to explain the Trinity without falling into modalism, lol.

Originally posted by @rajk999
98% aka the broad road that leads to damnation
2% - the narrow way that leads to eternal life.

Trinity? What is that?
Have a reference?

The narrow road leading to salvation is not a reference to following gnostic or alterantive Christianity.

It's a reference to literally just faithfully executing the word of God.

But this isn't about me...

It's about you.

You have an extreme minority opinion if you are not affirming classic Christian perspectives.

It's counter-productive to have me like cut-copy-paste catechisms.

How about we just try to get a finger and a thumb on what you believe, my brother.

Originally posted by @philokalia
Which is fortunately not a necessity.

However, you have to affirm it.

As James White has said... it is almost impossible for most protestants to explain the Trinity without falling into modalism, lol.

Would an omniscient deity really be content with people affirming something they didn't understand?

Also, does something have any value if we accept it without understanding it?

Originally posted by @philokalia
Which is fortunately not a necessity.

However, you have to affirm it.

As James White has said... it is almost impossible for most protestants to explain the Trinity without falling into modalism, lol.

You have to affirm it?

OK .. lets see a reference for that one.

Originally posted by @philokalia
Which is fortunately not a necessity.

However, you have to affirm it.

As James White has said... it is almost impossible for most protestants to explain the Trinity without falling into modalism, lol.

Clearly you haven't put much thought into this.

You need to ask yourself what affirming the trinity without understanding it amounts to.

How is it not an untruth if not a lie?