Originally posted by sonhouseAs in Daniel, we should all be able to see the handwriting on the wall and discern that the season is nearly upon us. The signs foretold in Matthew are evident.
Suzianne, if you believe the end days are coming in your lifetime, doesn't that argument get weaker as time goes by? As you get closer and closer to YOUR end days, don't you have to rethink the end days coming in your lifetime concept?
That plus I would imagine there are probably at least a billion people now dead who thought the same thing in THEIR life ...[text shortened]... t, what makes you sure THIS TIME you are right and it is going to be within say, 50 years or so?
Originally posted by yoctobyteWell done.
I do believe we are seeing the end times, as to how many years however remain? Well that remains to be seen.
Perhaps one of the most important reasons I believe that the end times is the period in which we live is the miracle of the nation of Israel and its rebirth. In the bible there are references of the fig tree being synonymous or a representation ...[text shortened]... phetically that suggest we are in the last days. So yes I believe that we are in the last days.
However, "end times" is a phrase like a fuse. It sets people off on flights of fancy. I would consider the true "end times" to only comprise the last seven years after the Rapture and leading to the return of Christ, and in this regard, this is why I say we are not in the "end times" yet, but very nearly so, I'd be surprised if we have even 50 years, given the state of our "fig tree".
Originally posted by FMFSure, make him out to be like Marshall Applewhite.
Are you doing anything specific in order to address what is going to happen? Are you doing anything to try to help save any family, loved ones, friends, colleagues or neighbours who are non-believers?
If you have children, are you telling them that they will [possibly] be destroyed and that they should not worry as it will be divine "justice"? If you're youn ...[text shortened]... give up your job so that you can spend more time with your family in the run up to destruction?
Typical.
Originally posted by FMF"Serious" questions. Yeah, right.
That you are reading the Bible is taken as a given. I was looking for evidence from your life that you are doing specific practical things in order to address the real life consequences of what you say is going to happen. You basically dodged my questions.
In fact, I cannot remember any of the 'end is nigh' Christians in this community fielding any serious q ...[text shortened]... l. Curious behaviour, time and time again. Should people take your claims seriously? If so, why?
And oh yeah, while I'm at it, it's not "doomsday" as you allege. It's only going to be "doomsday" for those who reject Christ.
Why should we take your attempts to paint us as 'whack jobs' seriously? Because that's all you're doing. "Serious" questions. Give me a break.
-Removed-All who can read, can know. Except, you know, for those who refuse to know.
One can also use your same argument ("You don't know, you just pretend you know!" ) and apply it directly to the question of "eternal torment" that you claim to know all about.
I personally think that argument fails on both counts, but still...
Originally posted by SuzianneYour refusal to talk in detail about the details of your prediction makes you seem not serious and makes your beliefs seem perhaps insincere - it's just stuff you say on message boards, but you don't take any serious questions on them. It is you who has introduced the term "whack jobs", not me.
"Serious" questions. Yeah, right.
And oh yeah, while I'm at it, it's not "doomsday" as you allege. It's only going to be "doomsday" for those who reject Christ.
Why should we take your attempts to paint us as 'whack jobs' seriously? Because that's all you're doing. "Serious" questions. Give me a break.
Originally posted by SuzianneI have no idea who Marshall Applewhite is. The only person who makes yoctobyte to be like anything or anyone, is yoctobyte himself. I am trying to gauge how serious he is when he claims that the world will end in his lifetime. He reacts in a strange way when anyone asks him genuine head-on questions about his belief in this matter. So do you. You almost always deflect with personal remarks aimed at the questioner.
Sure, make him out to be like Marshall Applewhite.
Typical.
Originally posted by sonshipThe problem is that, as the saying goes, "It's always darkest before the dawn."
If all your hope are vested in this fallen sin stricken world then you may think only of Christ's coming as the doomsday end of it all.
I prefer that I view Him more as the bright dawning of a new day for the world.
The period of time leading up to His return will see more humans perish on this earth than at any point in history.
"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." -- Matthew 24:22
But these are the wages of sin. That is why they call it "doomsday".
But the rest of us remember these words from the end of Revelation: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." -- Revelation 22:16
So I concur.
Originally posted by FMF"Proper" discussion? You sitting back laughing at us is "proper" discussion? No, thanks.
The prophecy can just sit there for another ten thousand years just like it's sat there for the last one or two thousand years. Christians have been predicting the end of the world since Christians first walked the earth. A smattering of reasonable questions soon undoes you and reveals that you are not really serious and you're making no effort to convince anyon ...[text shortened]... ting a Bible verse with the word "fool" in it when you want to suggest that someone is a "fool".