Originally posted by divegeester
I too avoid this discussion, although I'm sure you have managed to embroiled in it here before.
I avoid it because I don't have clue and therefore can't comment. I think there are some things in the world that are getting better and others not.
The "end times" has become a cliche as has "born again" both of which are simplist biblical notions. On ...[text shortened]... eturn is imminent. We forget one thing, the bible says "no man knows the hour"
So, who knows?
As to "not knowing the day nor the hour":
"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is." -- Mark 13:32-33
But on the other hand:
"Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors." -- Mark 13:28-29
So we know not the day nor the hour, but we can discern the season, or when "it is nigh". We also know that this will include what is called the Rapture, then 3.5 years of "the beginning of sorrows" (or 1290 days, as given in Daniel) and then 3.5 years of the Great Tribulation (or 1335 days as given in Daniel), and then the return of Christ, which shall include His coming as the warrior-Messiah the Jews have been waiting for, and His defeat of the AntiChrist and the binding of Satan, followed by the Judgement of all men.