@rajk999 saidAnyone who is "practicing" a sin willfully and will not stop and does continue a gross sin, will not become a JW.
So like I said. Sinners cannot become a JW.
What is the issue with that? Shouldn't all religions take that stand against the world and Satan?
If they don't uphold God's values and commands then they are no better then the one practicing the sin that God condemns.
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@rajk999 saidQuote me where I said that professions of faith are ALL that is required. Go ahead, quote me saying that. You cannot because I never said that. You are so eager to roll me up in your little ball of hate that makes you 'holier-than-thou', that you stopped listening to me long ago, because you're also a sexist.
Hypocrites promote mouthworship.
Mouth worship - Example professions of faith is all that is required
Mouthworship is condemned by Christ.
You and your buddies are condemned.
Followers of Christ promote good works and righteousness.
THIS is what I said about it recently which made you 'unload' on me with both barrels:
Except that both are required.
Not one, or the other. Both.
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." - Romans 10:9-10 KJV
You lie about me to exalt yourself, needlessly, I might add. That makes you a hypocrite.
@suzianne saidYour silence on this issue is the proof. Your silent support for those who do say it - sonship, second son, and others here is the proof.
Quote me where I said that professions of faith are ALL that is required. Go ahead, quote me saying that. You cannot because I never said that. You are so eager to roll me up in your little ball of hate that makes you 'holier-than-thou', that you stopped listening to me long ago, because you're also a sexist.
THIS is what I said about it recently which made you 'unload' ...[text shortened]... /quote]
You lie about me to exalt yourself, needlessly, I might add. That makes you a hypocrite.
@galveston75 saidGluttony is sin, purposely practiced and worthy of death.
Really? We are all sinners including you. Do you not understand the difference between our daily sins that Jehovah will forgive and a sin that is being purposely practiced?
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21 KJV)
Can a gluttonous person become a JW?
@rajk999 saidWhat do you think? Would your religion let them in?
Gluttony is sin, purposely practiced and worthy of death.
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his pl ...[text shortened]... Israel shall hear, and fear. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21 KJV)
Can a gluttonous person become a JW?
@galveston75 saidI belong to no religion. If I did then all people would be welcome. The guidelines would be just as Jesus commanded in Matt 5, 6 and 7. Condemning and persecuting sinners is not within the authority of man. That is Gods job and He has authorised Jesus Christ to do that at the appropriate time.
What do you think? Would your religion let them in?
The statement of faith would start off as follows :
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Matthew 5:3-9 KJV)
The church can guide and make suggestions for personal improvement but since no one is without sin then no one is authorized to condemn.
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@rajk999 saidOh, here we go, with the "you show your support through your silence" riff. Did you get that failed argument from those you support here? There's a reason why that riff doesn't work.
Your silence on this issue is the proof. Your silent support for those who do say it - sonship, second son, and others here is the proof.
So you further align yourself with the likes of FMF and divegeester, who always claim that when people don't jump on their little bandwagon, then that means they deserve to be attacked as well. When people don't drop everything and fall in line with your flawed thinking, the very next people you and they attack are the ones who said nothing. This is very Fascist-like. Do want a special salute so you can identify your supporters? Perhaps a "Heil, Rajk!" as we enter the thread so you can immediately identify your supporters and cast out all others?
That is a really lame argument, especially coming from you. I haven't posted in the "Reasons for disbelief in the Christian God" thread either. Do you suppose that this is because I support a disbelief of God?
How about engaging me on the topic I tried to engage you on? Deflection is for those without a valid argument.