Do we have ontological priority or do we possess an intrisic morality....
personally I think ontology wins, all we have that's intrinsic is primal urges, the need to procreate etc. Other than that we're a tabla rasa...
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Do we have ontological priority or do we possess an intrisic morality....
personally I think ontology wins, all we have that's intrinsic is primal urges, the need to procreate etc. Other than that we're a tabla rasa...
What on earth do you mean by "ontological priority" and "ontology wins"? Please don't just cut and paste something on existentialism from Wikipedia or elsewhere. I want you to explain it yourself.
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Do we have ontological priority or do we possess an intrisic morality....
personally I think ontology wins, all we have that's intrinsic is primal urges, the need to procreate etc. Other than that we're a tabla rasa...
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Do we have ontological priority or do we possess an intrisic morality....
personally I think ontology wins, all we have that's intrinsic is primal urges, the need to procreate etc. Other than that we're a tabla rasa...
Originally posted by dottewell What on earth do you mean by "ontological priority" and "ontology wins"? Please don't just cut and paste something on existentialism from Wikipedia or elsewhere. I want you to explain it yourself.
Its not cut and pasted, well from my brain it is....You shouldn't judge others by your lack of knowledge....i think Wittgeinstein once said, 'If you dont know, be quiet'....Good advice
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Its not cut and pasted, well from my brain it is....You shouldn't judge others by your lack of knowledge....i think Wittgeinstein once said, 'If you dont know, be quiet'....Good advice
"Whereof one cannot speak; thereof one must be silent".
I don't think Wittgenstein was talking about knowledge.
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Its not cut and pasted, well from my brain it is....You shouldn't judge others by your lack of knowledge....i think Wittgeinstein once said, 'If you dont know, be quiet'....Good advice
Don't worry, nobody would have mistaken it for a copy and paste from Wikipedia. Dottewell was asking for a non-copy-and-paste explanation of what you mean by it.
Originally posted by Nordlys Don't worry, nobody would have mistaken it for a copy and paste from Wikipedia. Dottewell was asking for a non-copy-and-paste explanation of what you mean by it.
Ontological priority, ie we are not born gendered or possessing intrisic values such as instinctively knowing not to kill etc etc etc
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Then what was he speaking about???
IIRC, he was simply speaking of the inability of language to express certain realities (e.g. the mataphysical or mystical) and therefore asking the reader not to attempt to make the ineffable, well ... 'effable' (as a certain regular on this forum might put it).
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Ontological priority, ie we are not born gendered or possessing intrisic values such as instinctively knowing not to kill etc etc etc
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 Then what was he speaking about???
Things which cannot be expressed clearly in words. In the introduction to the Tractatus, that sentence is preceded by this one: "Was sich überhaupt sagen läßt, läßt sich klar sagen;", i.e. "what can be said at all, can be said clearly".
Originally posted by lucifershammer We are not born "gendered"?
You're making me work today, its funny how u understand Wittgeinstein but not this, oh well i'll give you the benefit of doubt...
Not born gendered, ie: We have no male or female traits (bar physical ones), some say we are all adrogenous as well and its only culture that moulds and conforms us to the apparent norms of hetrosexuality.........
Originally posted by Vladamir no1 You're making me work today, its funny how u understand Wittgeinstein but not this, oh well i'll give you the benefit of doubt...
Not born gendered, ie: We have no male or female traits (bar physical ones), some say we are all adrogenous as well and its only culture that moulds and conforms us to the apparent norms of hetrosexuality.........
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