Do your religious beliefs 'liberate' you?

"There is something I recognise about religion that we evangelical atheists haven’t really grappled with yet, which is that it gives people a chance to surrender. What religion says to you, essentially, is: you’re not in control. Now, that’s a very liberating idea." - Brian Eno

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Originally posted by @fmf
"There is something I recognise about religion that we evangelical atheists haven’t really grappled with yet, which is that it gives people a chance to surrender. What religion says to you, essentially, is: you’re not in control. Now, that’s a very liberating idea." - Brian Eno

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Would you say you are in total control of everything? Or are there certain things you cannot control?

Originally posted by @fmf
The OP 'question' (topic) is for people who have religious beliefs. If ~ with your religious beliefs ~ you have something to offer on the OP, that would be interesting.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Your dodge is noted.

Originally posted by @fmf
You haven't addressed the OP. I'm not a person with religious beliefs, so your question to me ~ aside from being rather silly ~ is off-target. Furthermore, I'm not interested. So, as for this OP, do your religious beliefs 'liberate' you?

Originally posted by @fmf
You haven't addressed the OP. I'm not a person with religious beliefs, so your question to me ~ aside from being rather silly ~ is off-target. Furthermore, I'm not interested. So, as for this OP, do your religious beliefs 'liberate' you?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
My question is about the OP. As a non religious person, do you feel you are in control of everything?

Originally posted by @fmf
Your question is juvenile and boringly silly. Don't bother to ask me it again. I am not interested.

If you really want to talk to people about it, start a thread called "Are you in total control of everything?" and see if anyone wants to indulge you. I don't.

Do you think Brian Eno has a point about the psychological effect of religious beliefs?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Your question is juvenile and boringly silly. Don't bother to ask me it again. I am not interested.

Originally posted by @fmf
If you don't find Brian Eno's comment interesting, why have you posted 4 times on this thread about it?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I was referring to your question. His quote seems to imply that we really are in control and that religion makes us think we aren't. Hence my question to you.

Originally posted by @fmf
If you think Brian Eno had 'people having total control of everything' v 'people having control of nothing', then fair enough. As for me, I don't have religious beliefs. You do. Do your religious beliefs 'liberate' you... in any way... in any sense... or to any degree?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
[1] When you had religious beliefs in the past did you feel they liberated you? And if so do you now feel less 'liberated' now that you have no religious beliefs?

Originally posted by @fmf
[1] [[b]When I had religious beliefs in the past did I feel they liberated me?] No, not really. I felt they empowered me and, in a sense, obligated me.

[2] [Do I now feel more or less 'liberated' now that I have no religious beliefs?] No. Neither. To a degree, I feel 'liberated' [although it's probably too strong a word] from the process of growi ...[text shortened]... ss of faith that went on for quite a long time.

So, do your religious beliefs 'liberate' you?[/b]