09 Feb 08
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
C. S. Lewis
I also believe in Christianity, when people say "Prove" God is real. You cant actually prove God "exists", you can only believe he "exists". However when people say God doesnt "exist", there is no proof that he does exist, but also there is no proof that he "doesnt exist."
09 Feb 08
Originally posted by TheSilentHunterThe burden of proof is on you.
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
C. S. Lewis
I also believe in Christianity, when people say "Prove" God is real. You cant actually prove God "exists", you can only believe he "exists". However when people say God doesnt "exist", there is no proof that he does exist, but also there is no proof that he "doesnt exist."
09 Feb 08
Originally posted by rwingettI'm not trying to prove anything. All I said was that creation proves God exists. To me that means that what has been made is the evidence for a creator.
Obviously you are wrong. I do not agree that nature has been "created." You cannot "prove" anything in that regard, nor even demonstrate it convincingly.
Since you don't believe that what exists was created, then please tell me how everything came into existence. I would really like to hear your explanation. And I don't mean that sarcastically either.
09 Feb 08
Originally posted by josephw???
I'm not trying to prove anything. All I said was that creation proves God exists. To me that means that what has been made is the evidence for a creator.
Since you don't believe that what exists was created, then please tell me how everything came into existence. I would really like to hear your explanation. And I don't mean that sarcastically either.
You're not trying to prove anything, but then claim that creation "proves" god exists? If that's not trying to prove something, then what is?
If you want to get a better idea on how things came into existence then go read some books on cosmology, astronomy and biology. I'm not going to spell it all out for you.
09 Feb 08
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Originally posted by rwingettAnd no doubt those books, (written by man), will tell me that God didn't create the universe.
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You're not trying to prove anything, but then claim that creation "proves" god exists? If that's not trying to prove something, then what is?
If you want to get a better idea on how things came into existence then go read some books on cosmology, astronomy and biology. I'm not going to spell it all out for you.
What I'm saying is that it is an observable and objective fact that creation itself proves the existence of God.
[b]..."I'm not going to spell it all out for you."
Try!
09 Feb 08
Originally posted by KellyJayLook, if I have to face God at the end of this dog and pony show, and he wants to know why I stopped believing in him...I can say with a completely clear heart that the evidence for his existence did not pass muster, and if he is upset by that I will tell him to blame the critical thinking skills he created me with.
I don't believe so, the real burden will be denying Him when you come
face to face with Him and you have your whole life in front of you.
Kelly
09 Feb 08
Originally posted by TheSkipperSo your defence is going to be, God it is your fault. I think Adam did
Look, if I have to face God at the end of this dog and pony show, and he wants to know why I stopped believing in him...I can say with a completely clear heart that the evidence for his existence did not pass muster, and if he is upset by that I will tell him to blame the critical thinking skills he created me with.
that one too, didn't get him far. Did you ever have a relationship with
God to walk away from, or did you just think He was there and stopped
thinking that way?
Kelly