1. R
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    05 Jun '18 15:59
    Nonsense. Christ died for the sins of the world.


    Yes, He gave His body for the life of the world, says the Gospel of John (John 6:51).

    But the called out ones RECEIVED Him. The church then is the result of His redemption.

    Christ is the Head over all things "TO THE CHURCH"

    "And He subjected all things under His feet and gave Him to be the Head over all things to the church." (Eph. 1:22)


    So how can you profess to be a follower of Christ and speak so insultingly and disparagingly about the church ?

    God is recovering the normal church life in many cities on the continents of the world.
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    05 Jun '18 16:11
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Nonsense. Christ died for the sins of the world.


    Yes, He gave His body for the life of the world, says the Gospel of John [b](John 6:51)
    .

    But the called out ones RECEIVED Him. The church then is the result of His redemption.

    Christ is the Head over all things "TO THE CHURCH"

    [quote] "And He subjected all things ...[text shortened]... ch ?

    God is recovering the normal church life in many cities on the continents of the world.
    That church of the Bible is long gone. There is no such church in these times. It exists only in your head. Your church is similarly corrupt and is full of false doctrines.

    Here is what the early church in the time of Paul was about :

    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. (Acts 2:38-47 KJV)
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    05 Jun '18 17:19
    Originally posted by @sonship

    I am not sure how you are going to tie this into the topic of this thread.
    I wasn't attempting to tie it to the topic of the thread. You stated Rajk assumes he knows what everyone believes, and I was pointing out that you frequently do the same thing when it comes to atheists. (And Hindus for that matter).
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    Originally posted by @rajk999
    That church of the Bible is long gone. There is no such church in these times. It exists only in your head. Your church is similarly corrupt and is full of false doctrines.


    Then you are saying that the church that Jesus said He would build has been defeated by the gates of Hades. That's your total lack of faith.

    His promise was the gates of Hades WOULD NOT prevail.
    Your lie is that they HAVE prevailed.

    Talking about what only in your head? Your unbelief in Christ's promise, that's stuck in your unbelieving head.


    Here is what the early church in the time of Paul was about :


    You are saying that the church "the pillar and ground of the truth" has been done away, destroyed, prevailed against by the gates of Hades.

    She has gone through trials and tribulations. But still the church that Christ builds cannot be defeated.

    "To Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus unto ALL the generations forever and ever. Amen." (Eph. 3:21)


    Your false teaching is "To Him be glory in the church just for a little while until she is no more for centuries after"
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    05 Jun '18 21:06
    Originally posted by @sonship
    That church of the Bible is long gone. There is no such church in these times. It exists only in your head. Your church is similarly corrupt and is full of false doctrines.


    Then you are saying that the church that Jesus said He would build has been defeated by the gates of Hades. That's your total lack of faith.

    His promise was the ga ...[text shortened]... "To Him be glory in the church just for a little while until she is no more for centuries after"
    You really are a dunce.
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    05 Jun '18 22:041 edit
    Originally posted by @sonship
    That church of the Bible is long gone. There is no such church in these times. It exists only in your head. Your church is similarly corrupt and is full of false doctrines.


    Then you are saying that the church that Jesus said He would build has been defeated by the gates of Hades. That's your total lack of faith.

    His promise was the ga ...[text shortened]... "To Him be glory in the church just for a little while until she is no more for centuries after"
    The Body of Christ or Christ's Church comprises:
    - Sheep
    - Disciples
    - Followers of His commandments

    The Body of Christ is not
    - churches
    - organisations

    Eg the Catholic Church is not Christ's Church.
    Reason : the gates of Hell have already prevailed against that church.
    That church is filled with corruption, greedy, sexual immorality and false doctrines.

    Any Christian religious organisation which does not follow the teachings of Christ and follow his commandments are similarly diseased and are the branches that Jesus stated will be cut off.
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    Rajk999 is a total hypocrit.

    He brags abut how he belongs to no church.
    But the New Testament says the believers should not forsake the assembling of ourselves together.

    Rajk999 boasts of his custom of not assembling together in the practical church life.

    "Not abandoning our assembling together as the custom of some is, ... (Heb. 10:25a)


    I seek the recovery of the normal church life which God is doing in the earth.

    Rajk999 (if he is a Christian) is sinning willfully by his custom of despising the coming together to church of Christians.

    "Not abandoning our ASSEMBLING TOGETHER as the custom of some is, but exhorting one another , and so much the more as you see the day drawing near.

    For when we sin willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice of bulls and goats for sins. (vs. 25,26)


    I don't think Rajk999 is a true believer in Christ. But if I am wrong he sure brags about his willful sinning custom of forsaking the assembling together of Christians.
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    06 Jun '18 00:531 edit
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The Body of Christ or Christ's Church comprises:
    - Sheep
    - Disciples
    - Followers of His commandments


    Is an Atheist who "follows the commandments of Jesus" a member of Christ's Body?

    Is an Atheist who "follows the commandments of Jesus" a member of the universal church ?

    Yes or No ?
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    06 Jun '18 00:56
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Rajk999 is a total hypocrit.

    He brags abut how he belongs to no church.
    But the New Testament says the believers should not forsake the assembling of ourselves together.

    Rajk999 boasts of his custom of not assembling together in the practical church life.

    [quote] [b] "Not abandoning our assembling together as the custom of some is, ... (Heb. 10: ...[text shortened]... gs about his willful sinning [b] custom
    of forsaking the assembling together of Christians.[/b]
    You know, if you had better reading comprehension skills, you might understand what he's been saying. But you don't.

    As a result, you falsely accuse him not only of being a hypocrite, but a "total" hypocrite.

    Perhaps if you weren't so prideful, you seek to develop better reading comprehension skills.
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    In the Bible the word "sheep" as in God's "sheep" is also uttered concerning ALL the nations of created people.

    That is in one sense, all the people of the earth are "the sheep of His hand."

    "Know that it is Jehovah who is God. It is He who has made us and not we ourselves.

    We are His people and the SHEEP of His pasture." (Psalm 100:3)


    Yes the NT testament speaks of Christ's believers as His sheep in John 10. But on another level ALL the people He made are "the sheep of His pasture".

    Rajk999 loves to refer to the SHEEP in Matthew 25:31-46. But in THAT passage, the "sheep" are His in the sense of all nations of people made by Jehovah are His sheep.

    The ones who followed Antichrist transmuted themselves from His sheep to "goats" that are to cursed for following Antichrist to persecute Christ's brothers during the great tribulation.
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    06 Jun '18 01:06
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    You know, if you had better reading comprehension skills, you might understand what he's been saying. But you don't.

    As a result, you falsely accuse him not only of being a hypocrite, but a "total" hypocrite.

    Perhaps if you weren't so prideful, you seek to develop better reading comprehension skills.
    In hypocrisy you may be worse.

    An ashamed Atheist hiding behind the coat tails of Jews who believe in Yahweh and love theistic Judaism.

    I'd exercise reading comprehension of your admition of Atheism if you weren't such a secret coward to honestly come out and confess it.
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    06 Jun '18 01:163 edits
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The Church of Christ is the BROTHERHOOD OF ALL WHO FOLLOW CHRIST


    Is an Atheist who you think follows Christ in the BROTHERHOOD of the Church of Christ ?

    YES or
    NO?

    I want to practice some basic reading comprehension skills.

    YES - an Atheist is in the Church BROTHERHOOD ?

    NO - an Atheist is NOT in the Church BROTHERHOOD ?

    Make it plain for the resident English teacher ThinkOfOne and myself.
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    06 Jun '18 01:211 edit
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    Perhaps if you weren't so prideful, you seek to develop better reading comprehension skills.


    Let me practice on your long awaited honest confession of what you REALLY believe about the existence of God.

    Are you ready to take a stand on whether God IS or IS NOT ?

    Make it in easy to read PLAIN ENGLISH just for me.
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    06 Jun '18 01:21
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    You know, if you had better reading comprehension skills, you might understand what he's been saying. But you don't.

    As a result, you falsely accuse him not only of being a hypocrite, but a "total" hypocrite.

    Perhaps if you weren't so prideful, you seek to develop better reading comprehension skills.
    Lol.. total. 100%.
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    06 Jun '18 01:21
    Originally posted by @sonship
    In hypocrisy you may be worse.

    An ashamed Atheist hiding behind the coat tails of Jews who believe in Yahweh and love theistic Judaism.

    I'd exercise reading comprehension of your admition of Atheism if you weren't such a secret coward to honestly come out and confess it.
    You're such a prideful thing.

    How does your lack of humility not make you a hypocrite along the same lines that you accuse rajk999 of being one? And a false accusation at that.
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