[in cathedra] I don't really think that all Germans past and present are Nazis. I do think that there were Nazis who were not criminals, however, just as there can be Republican Americans who are not criminals. [/in cathedra]
Originally posted by David C Don't get too upset. Most of the xtians on this forum are the spiritual equivalent of blind, deaf and dumb. Hardly surprising they'd alert your post out of existence.
Happily, the offending post in question was also the top of the recomended posts lists for a while. Tee hee.
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles [in cathedra] I don't really think that all Germans past and present are Nazis. I do think that there were Nazis who were not criminals, however, just as there can be Republican Americans who are not criminals. [/in cathedra]
Would it be fair, then, to characterize the Abu Ghraib crimes as Republican [American] crimes?
Originally posted by lucifershammer Would it be fair, then, to characterize the Abu Ghraib crimes as Republican [American] crimes?
It would be fair to characterize them as American crimes. They were committed by people acting as agents of America. America should be held accountable for having agents that carried out those crimes.
It would not be fair to characterize them as Republican crimes. They were not committed by people acting as agents of the Republican party.
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles It would be fair to characterize them as American crimes. They were committed by people acting as agents of America. America should be held accountable for having agents that carried out those crimes.
It would not be fair to characterize them as Republican crimes. They were not committed by people acting as agents of the Republican party.
It would be a fair call though if Germany was still run by the Nazi Party and the Fuhrership was passed down to the present and the Third Reich still existed.
Fascism still exists and it's still coming from the same source!
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles I wasn't speaking ex cathedra, was I? Fooled you!
[in cathedra] I don't really think that all Germans past and present are Nazis. I do think that there were Nazis who were not criminals, however, just as there can be Republican Americans who are not criminals. [/in cathedra]
Thanks for providing a nice example for the difference between a joke and being serious. I am German, and if someone would seriously believe that all Germans are nazis and/or criminals, I would find that offensive. But I laughed quite a bit about "This one was offensive to you. The other would be offensive to Germans, if there are any who aren't Nazis.", which I understood as a joke. To tell a joke which stereotypes Germans as nazis is not at all the same as saying that all Germans are nazis.
Whether I find a joke offensive or not depends on a lot of factors, though. It depends on who is telling the joke, to whom (I find it much worse if jokes are told behind the back of the group they are referring to), and how.
Don't poke fun at the foibles of the church
17 Sep '05 15:19
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