Originally posted by NordlysDo you know why the Nazi high command kept alcohol away from Hitler ?
Thanks for providing a nice example for the difference between a joke and being serious. I am German, and if someone would seriously believe that all Germans are nazis and/or criminals, I would find that offensive. But I laughed quite a bit about "This one was offensive to you. The other would be offensive to Germans, [i]if there are any who aren't Nazis[ ...[text shortened]... nd it much worse if jokes are told behind the back of the group they are referring to), and how.
He was a mean drunk .
Originally posted by rwingettI got arrested for being the ugliest person in the county. Could yer daddy come over to the police station and prove them wrong. 😵😵😵
Yes, my father is still around. But his well being is in no way affected by whatever jokes you may happen to come up with at his expense. So on the outside chance that you do happen to come up with such a joke, go ahead and post it. If it's any good I'll forward it to him. He might get a laugh out of it.
Originally posted by aardvarkhomeYour conclusions are not correct. I don't think your initial thread belongs in a "Spirituality" forum, not even if the joke's subject claims to be spiritual.
its not allowed. No comment is allowed on child molesters who hide behind religion. We obviously approve of this behaviour and defend their right to wreck children's lives.
Bah humbug
I suggest to open a new forum for stand-up comedians and their jokes.
By the way you explained your reasons and agenda to post your joke in the initial thread so stop whining if you get comments that criticises your intents and actual behaviour.
Originally posted by rwingettMaybe you should take a look in the Netherlands and other European countries where your thoughts of banning religion, religiously based education and religiously based ideas which do not agree with ruling liberal egalitarian ideas, are beginning to become more and more popular among the liberal "silent" majority. The civil liberties are in more than one way under severe pressure in the "liberal" countries.
The problem with religious people is that they have no sense of humor. Is your faith so fragile that it cannot withstand a joke?
I find your whole religion to be offensive, but I don't ask the moderators to ban it.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIn Seattle we call this "progress".
Maybe you should take a look in the Netherlands and other European countries where your thoughts of banning religion, religiously based education and religiously based ideas which do not agree with ruling liberal egalitarian ideas, are beginning to become more and more popular among the liberal "silent" majority. The civil liberties are in more than one way under severe pressure in the "liberal" countries.
Seriously, though, who here is talking about banning religion? Why would we want to ban something we find so hilarious?
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Originally posted by ivanhoeA 'sense of humour failiure' last night but normal pomposity returns tonight.
Your conclusions are not correct. I don't think your initial thread belongs in a "Spirituality" forum, not even if the joke's subject claims to be spiritual.
I suggest to open a new forum for stand-up comedians and their jokes.
By the way you explained your reasons and agenda to post your joke in the initial thread so stop whining if you get comments that criticises your intents and actual behaviour.
This thread was posted when the previous thread was censored at the request of person or persons 'unknown'
Originally posted by bbarrI can still hear the echo's of the "jokes" and comments Hitler & friends made about religion in general and Jews, of course, in particular.
In Seattle we call this "progress".
Seriously, though, who here is talking about banning religion? Why would we want to ban something we find so hilarious?
Bbarr: "Seriously, though, who here is talking about banning religion?"
Maybe it is time to take a look around you Bbarr, and stop taking the United States as the focus of your attention. If you visit European debating sites you can find these ideas en masse, put forward by people who present themselves as being "liberals".
Originally posted by ivanhoeI'm sure I can find all forms of human madness well represented on the internets. So what? Folks on debating sites are self-selected and tend not only to start off with radical positions (to make the debate interesting) but they get more radical as the debate progresses. Why should I take the views of blowhards on the internets as representative? What reason is there for thinking that religious freedom is really under attack in the Western world?
I can still hear the echo's of the "jokes" and comments Hitler & friends made about religion in general and Jews, of course, in particular.
Bbarr: "Seriously, though, who here is talking about banning religion?"
Maybe it is time to take a look around you Bbarr, and stop taking the United States as the focus of your attention. If you visit Europea ...[text shortened]... n find these ideas en masse, put forward by people who present themselves as being "liberals".
Originally posted by aardvarkhomeWell, I didn't check it out ..... but indeed the thread has been deleted.
A 'sense of humour failiure' last night but normal pomposity returns tonight.
This thread was posted when the previous thread was censored at the request of person or persons 'unknown'
So we can look upon this thread as whining on your part.
Originally posted by aardvarkhomeAs you know this is a chess community and there are ToS.
A 'sense of humour failiure' last night but normal pomposity returns tonight.
This thread was posted when the previous thread was censored at the request of person or persons 'unknown'
This is not a public place like any soapbox you can find everywhere you go.
Originally posted by ivanhoeNo one is banning religion in Europe. Questions are being asked here in the UK regarding religious extremism and the promulgation of terrorism in the name of religion after the London bombings. My undertanding was that the Netherlands government was responding to terroristic murders carried out in the name of religious extremism. Acting to restrain murdering religious extremists is very different to 'banning religion'. I am not aware that Europe has suspended its civil rights and allowed the banning of religion, I think you have given a misleading impression in your post.
Maybe you should take a look in the Netherlands and other European countries where your thoughts of banning religion, religiously based education and religiously based ideas which do not agree with ruling liberal egalitarian ideas, are beginning to become more and more popular among the liberal "silent" majority. The civil liberties are in more than one way under severe pressure in the "liberal" countries.
Originally posted by aardvarkhomeAardvarkhome: "No one is banning religion in Europe."
No one is banning religion in Europe. Questions are being asked here in the UK regarding religious extremism and the promulgation of terrorism in the name of religion after the London bombings. My undertanding was that the Netherlands government was responding to terroristic murders carried out in the name of religious extremism. Acting to restrain murd ...[text shortened]... nd allowed the banning of religion, I think you have given a misleading impression in your post.
This is a statement I would not like to repeat after reading the European debating sites. Especially the Dutch liberal masses are quite in favour of it.
Aarvarkhome: " I think you have given a misleading impression in your post"
You obviously only read the papers.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIf the ToS are to have any meaning then the thread with the same joke, having the word priest substituted by 'godless Darwinist' will surely be deleted too.
As you know this is a chess community and there are ToS.
This is not a public place like any soapbox you can find everywhere you go.
I await the signs of a level playing-field.
If, as you say, this is a chess community why do we have to suffer posts from religious zealots who don't appear to play chess?
Originally posted by NordlysTo tell a joke which stereotypes Germans as nazis is not at all the same as saying that all Germans are nazis.
Thanks for providing a nice example for the difference between a joke and being serious. I am German, and if someone would seriously believe that all Germans are nazis and/or criminals, I would find that offensive. But I laughed quite a bit about "This one was offensive to you. The other would be offensive to Germans, [i]if there are any who aren't Nazis[ ...[text shortened]... nd it much worse if jokes are told behind the back of the group they are referring to), and how.
Perhaps it is your father who should be answering this question. No offence intended.
Whether I find a joke offensive or not depends on a lot of factors, though. It depends on who is telling the joke, to whom ..., and how.
Who was telling this joke? To whom? How?