1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    04 Apr '15 10:54
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    What does this mean in practical terms? For example, what does 'spake like a dragon' mean? How does a dragon speak?
    Don't know, but it is never the parts that I don't understand that worry me
    it is those I do, so this part about everyone being forced to take the mark
    to buy or sell...is a concern.

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
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    04 Apr '15 10:55
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    One of the signs is a great falling away, that I believe it is beginning now. If
    that is true, this earth is heading for a bloody future in a very near future time.
    What signs do you see of a "great falling away"?
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    04 Apr '15 11:03
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Don't know, but it is never the parts that I don't understand that worry me
    it is those I do, so this part about everyone being forced to take the mark
    to buy or sell...is a concern.

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy o ...[text shortened]... r of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
    Explain to me what this means to you in practical terms? How will this manifest itself in the here and now?
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    04 Apr '15 11:12
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    What signs do you see of a "great falling away"?
    The numbers even mouthing Jesus will drop...a lot....their love towards
    God and man will grow cold.
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    04 Apr '15 11:13
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    The numbers even mouthing Jesus will drop...a lot....their love towards
    God and man will grow cold.
    What evidence of this happening do you have?
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    04 Apr '15 11:14
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Explain to me what this means to you in practical terms? How will this manifest itself in the here and now?
    In practical terms in my (opinion) I believe a world system where you have
    to have a mark to buy or sell is coming. I imagine with the global markets
    going south it will seem like the right thing to do to get everything under
    control, and control is going to be the key word!
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    04 Apr '15 11:18
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    In practical terms in my (opinion) I believe a world system where you have
    to have a mark to buy or sell is coming. I imagine with the global markets
    going south it will seem like the right thing to do to get everything under
    control, and control is going to be the key word!
    What sort of mark would it be?
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    04 Apr '15 11:19
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    In practical terms in my (opinion) I believe a world system where you have
    to have a mark to buy or sell is coming. I imagine with the global markets
    going south it will seem like the right thing to do to get everything under
    control, and control is going to be the key word!
    When you talk about certain economic woes being a sign that 'the end is nigh', do you mean to claim that the Bible is talking about economic woes from the point of view of beleaguered American middle class people and seen through a right wing U.S.-centric prism?
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    04 Apr '15 11:19
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I believe the "Anti-Christ" is more than likely alive today...
    Why do you believe this?
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    04 Apr '15 11:23
    Originally posted by FMF
    When you talk about certain economic woes being a sign that 'the end is nigh', do you mean to claim that the Bible is talking about economic woes from the point of view of beleaguered American middle class people and seen through a right wing U.S.-centric prism?
    I find it facinating that many American Christians think that their country is the seat of Satan's earthy power, some like whodey even going on to extrapolate that Obama is the Devil himself. This entanglement of extreme religious self-fixation and political partisan perspectives makes quite amusing viewing.
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    04 Apr '15 11:25
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    What sort of mark would it be?
    People used to believe it was going to be like a tattoo (at least those I knew)
    now I believe it will more than likely be like what we use on pets to track
    them. It will be something that will show who you are, and with that they
    could know all there is to know about you at all times. You could walk into
    a store take stuff off the shelf and leave without ever having to stop and
    pay for it, because they would know who you were and your bank account
    along with what you took. So if everyone had the mark stealing would be
    toast, doing a crime would be more dangerous since they could scan a
    city block and know who was where.
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    04 Apr '15 11:31
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    People used to believe it was going to be like a tattoo (at least those I knew)
    now I believe it will more than likely be like what we use on pets to track
    them. It will be something that will show who you are, and with that they
    could know all there is to know about you at all times. You could walk into
    a store take stuff off the shelf and leave withou ...[text shortened]... oing a crime would be more dangerous since they could scan a
    city block and know who was where.
    So you believe human beings will be 'chipped' in your life time?

    Who will be responsible for the chipping?
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    04 Apr '15 11:431 edit
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    So you believe human beings will be 'chipped' in your life time?

    Who will be responsible for the chipping?
    Yes, and our governments will do it. It will seem like the right thing to do,
    unless you read the scriptures and see, no, not so much.
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    04 Apr '15 12:14
    The mark of the beast is the smart phone (or Google glass for those that can afford it).

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread989885/pg1
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    04 Apr '15 12:17
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    It will be something that will show who you are, and with that they
    could know all there is to know about you at all times. You could walk into
    a store take stuff off the shelf and leave without ever having to stop and
    pay for it, because they would know who you were and your bank account
    along with what you took. So if everyone had the mark stealing wo ...[text shortened]... oing a crime would be more dangerous since they could scan a
    city block and know who was where.
    Cell phones can already do all this.
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