Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)
Ever Been Very Near Death?
This is a facsimile of the blurred and jumbled screen images I saw in January, 2011, when my son Eric (Health Proxy and Executor) booked a flight from Boston to be told upon arrival: "Your father's condition is terminal". By Summer I was on the mend; rid of the catheter; able to feed and bathe myself again. I thank God audibly for each new day. Ever happen to you?
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyGB, as humans, we all have a terminal condition. It's called life.
Ever Been Very Near Death?
This is a facsimile of the blurred and jumbled screen images I saw in January, 2011, when my son Eric (Health Proxy and Executor) booked a flight from Boston to be told upon arrival: "Your father's condition is terminal". By Summer I was on the mend; rid of the catheter; able to feed and bathe myself again. I thank God audibly for each new day. Ever happen to you?
If you mean to ask if any here have been close to death, I have.
I would say four times, but you might count it three if you don't believe contemplated suicide is that close to death. I had the gun in my hand. That was the time the angels came and convinced me otherwise.
The three other times:
1. I was maybe eight years old and was at my grandparents' house in Philadelphia with my parents. I had just put a hard candy into my mouth at the kitchen table. Then I tried to take a drink of water and when I inhaled before taking a sip, the candy went down first and blocked off my airway. I started gagging and my father (this was back when he was younger and still fairly fit) grabbed me and held me upside down while beating me on my back. I was on the verge of passing out when the candy popped out and rolled across the floor. I remember this weird feeling that it was all happening to someone else just before I was finally able to take a breath.
2. Later, in high school, I was on a trip tubing down a local river (even though I had not yet learned to swim) and I was sharing a tube with this cute boy when he started monkeying around and I was tossed off the tube and down I went into the water. I was just starting to panic when another boy dived down and grabbed my arm and pulled me up onto another tube. I learned to swim later that summer.
3. One morning about five or six years ago now, I put my robe on and walked out to the driveway to get the Sunday paper. That's all I remember. Apparently, I had collapsed in the driveway and a neighbor (who had just happened to be watching me out his kitchen window) called 911 and the EMT's were working on me right there in the driveway when I woke up. Apparently, it was a very low blood sugar episode. They said they were like 2 minutes from bundling me up into the ambulance when I finally came around and they still wanted to take me in. I refused that and at first they wouldn't leave until my blood sugar came up significantly but they had pumped so much glucagon and glucose into me that it was finally pushing near 150 (from a low of like 25), so they made me promise I would make some breakfast right away. When I invited the good-looking firemen inside for coffee they figured I was finally okay. 🙂
Originally posted by SuzianneHere is a song for you:
GB, as humans, we all have a terminal condition. It's called life.
If you mean to ask if any here have been close to death, I have.
I would say four times, but you might count it three if you don't believe contemplated suicide is that close to death. I had the gun in my hand. That was the time the angels came and convinced me otherwise.
T ...[text shortened]... When I invited the good-looking firemen inside for coffee they figured I was finally okay. 🙂
The post that was quoted here has been removedThere are some people that have actually died and been brought back to life after a few minutes. Some of these people have reported out of body experiences and visions of visiting a good place of light or a bad terrifying place like hell.
These type of experiences seems to have a beneficial religious influence on the rest of their life from the stories I have read.
The post that was quoted here has been removedOriginally posted by Duchess64
"...your life was preserved for a reason."
--Grampy Bobby (writing to Suzianne)
I am glad, of course, that Suzianne's life has been preserved.
Yet when other people have suddenly (or apparently inexplicably) died,
how much comfort
would it be to their grieving loved ones for them to
be told, for instance, 'God must have had a reason' ? [a]
If one believes in God and an afterlife, then hearing this could be of comfort. But I have heard it spoken to grieving people
who don't believe in God and
an afterlife, and I suspect they would rather not have heard it at all. [b]
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[a] Considerable 'comfort' knowing a family member or friend is now absent from the body and face to face with the Lord.
[b] Well meaning people who mouth the same expressions of sympathies extended to "grieving people who don't believe in God and an afterlife..." are at best clumsy and maudlin within a cocoon of their ignorance; an eternity of suffering awaits.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyHow exactly would you suggest that people should offer their condolences or sympathies to dead friends or relatives [who were atheists] without being "clumsy and maudlin"? What do you reckon they should say?
Well meaning people who mouth the same expressions of sympathies extended to "grieving people who don't believe in God and an afterlife..." are at best clumsy and maudlin within a cocoon of their ignorance; an eternity of suffering awaits.
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Originally posted by Nick Bourbaki..... sans, "God must have had a reason".
How exactly would you suggest that people should offer their condolences or sympathies to dead friends or relatives [who were atheists] without being "clumsy and maudlin"? What do you reckon they should say?
Footnote: Offering condolences to Believers in Christ who had lost an avowed atheist loved one, I'd remind them that only God knows for certain who in a moment of time has believed in Christ (which could have occurred decades ago).
Originally posted by Nick BourbakiThere's far too much at stake to allow 'feelings' of any kind to have control; emotions have no capacity for rational thought.
When you talk to atheists here about your personal notions about there being life after death and when you regurgitate internalized threats of "an eternity of suffering", do you ever feel "clumsy and maudlin"?