19 Mar 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAt 14 I was walking down a street when a man in a trenchcoat walked up to me and said "I'm going to blow your brains out". I laughed and said "No you're not". We struggled and I remember both of us going over some hedges. I was a bloody mess and still have a scar on the left side of my head from the shotgun.
[b]Ever Been Very Near Death?
In the mid-seventies I was hitchhiking near Carmel, Calif. when a very well dressed man driving a blue Mercedes stopped and asked me if I wanted lunch. I said yes and he drove to his parents house (a mansion) and while he was handing me a bologna sandwich and a glass of milk he said, "I brought you here to have sex with you and kill you but I can't do that". I nodded in agreement. He apparently thought I was some angelic or demonic messenger sent to converse with him. I thought he was just some nutjob. He dropped me off right at the point of the road where he had picked me up. I thought little about him until 5 years later when I watched an HBO special "The 10 worst serial killers in the US" and there he was. I never hitchhiked again.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyBut your constant references on this forum to your own purported immortality come across as purely emotional as do your constant references to people with beliefs differing from yours "suffering in eternity". Coming to terms with the fact that we die can, understandably, stirs up emotions and a need for coping strategies in many people. I think your coping strategy is pretty plain for people to see.
There's far too much at stake to allow 'feelings' of any kind to have control; emotions have no capacity for rational thought.
19 Mar 14
Originally posted by caissad4Two close calls objectively and vividly described... you're one of the fortunate to have emerged from both events unscathed.
At 14 I was walking down a street when a man in a trenchcoat walked up to me and said "I'm going to blow your brains out". I laughed and said "No you're not". We struggled and I remember both of us going over some hedges. I was a bloody mess and still have a scar on the left side of my head from the shotgun.
In the mid-seventies I was hitchhiking near Carm ...[text shortened]... HBO special "The 10 worst serial killers in the US" and there he was. I never hitchhiked again.
19 Mar 14
Originally posted by Nick Bourbaki..... purportedly.
But your constant references on this forum to your own purported immortality come across as purely emotional as do your constant references to people with beliefs differing from yours "suffering in eternity". Coming to terms with the fact that we die can, understandably, stirs up emotions and a need for coping strategies in many people. I think your coping strategy is pretty plain for people to see.
19 Mar 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYes indeed. That we have the capacity to dream up things like life after death is an integral part of our spiritual dimension and our facility for abstraction and speculation. I think it is wholly natural and understandable
..... purportedly.
for humans to dream about immortality as you do.
19 Mar 14
Originally posted by Nick Bourbaki
Yes indeed. That we have the capacity to dream up things like life after death is an integral part of our spiritual dimension and our facility for abstraction and speculation. I think it is wholly natural and understandable
for humans to dream about immortality as you do.
..... purportedly.
19 Mar 14
Originally posted by FabianFnasDoes your story mean that the day you die, your belief that you'd live
Every day I am nearer to my own death.
Every time I am very near to my death but survive, I realize that I wasn't near my death at all, it was just an illusion.
forever was an illusion?
Kelly
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'm just giving my take on what you are asserting about yourself and others. I do believe it is a function of the capacity for spiritual contemplation that we all have (as humans), but, first and foremost, I think your belief in your own immortality is emotional. A thread about "Death" like this one seems like the appropriate place to discuss this.
There's far too much at stake to allow 'feelings' of any kind to have control; emotions have no capacity for rational thought [about my own mortality].
19 Mar 14
Originally posted by caissad4This really happen?
At 14 I was walking down a street when a man in a trenchcoat walked up to me and said "I'm going to blow your brains out". I laughed and said "No you're not". We struggled and I remember both of us going over some hedges. I was a bloody mess and still have a scar on the left side of my head from the shotgun.
In the mid-seventies I was hitchhiking near Carm ...[text shortened]... HBO special "The 10 worst serial killers in the US" and there he was. I never hitchhiked again.
19 Mar 14
Originally posted by Nick Bourbaki
I'm just giving my take on what you are asserting about yourself and others. I do believe it is a function of the capacity for spiritual contemplation that we all have (as humans), but, first and foremost, I think your belief in your own immortality is emotional. A thread about "Death" like this one seems like the appropriate place to discuss this.
Originally posted by Nick Bourbaki
I'm just giving my take on what you are asserting about yourself and others..."
> One four word question... no assertion. Have you ever been very near death?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)
Ever Been Very Near Death?
This is a facsimile of the blurred and jumbled screen images I saw in January, 2011, when my son Eric (Health Proxy and Executor) booked a flight from Boston to be told upon arrival: "Your father's condition is terminal". By Summer I was on the mend; rid of the catheter; able to feed and bathe myself again. I thank God audibly for each new day. Ever happen to you?
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19 Mar 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYes, purportedly. It goes for you and me both. A Spirituality Forum is a place where people pitch 'things they purport' to each other; you do it, I do it, pretty much everyone here does it. Surmise, imagination and aspiration are part of the very essence of the subject matter. And your emotions play a part too.
..... purportedly.
20 Mar 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI already posted about coming close to death on page 1. You made a couple of assertions relating to your own personal claim to be immortal at the bottom of page three and an assertion about people "suffering in eternity" if they don't share your beliefs further up the same page. I am simply engaging you, that's all. 🙂
One four word question... no assertion. Have you ever been very near death?
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20 Mar 14
Originally posted by caissad4When you got into the blue Merc with the well dressed man, where you really expecting lunch or hoping for sex?
near Carmel, Calif. when a very well dressed man driving a blue Mercedes stopped and asked me if I wanted lunch. I said yes and he drove to his parents house (a mansion) and while he was handing me a bologna sandwich and a glass of milk he said, "I brought you here to have sex with you and kill you but I can't do that". I nodded in agreement.