Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeShades of RJHinds.
Evilution?!
Well, what you describe I guess certainly isn't evolution.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke(Ignore)
Evilution?!
Well, what you describe I guess certainly isn't evolution.
Originally posted by @romans1009However, the point of this thread is that, however much these may be "proof" or "evidence" for you, they are not absolute proofs, or even evidence, for those who do not believe in the reality of Christianity.
Fulfillled prophecies in the Bible are what convinced me that Jesus Christ was the long-awaited Messiah. But there are more than just Messianic prophecies in the Bible.
You had to at least believe in the veracity of the Bible in order for Biblical prophecies to "seal the deal" for you regarding the Messiah.
Originally posted by @suzianneProof and evidence are two different things. For me, fulfilled prophecies are very strong evidence. If prophets write 500 to 700 years ahead of time where the Messiah will be born, His lineage, His purpose on earth, the events surrounding His crucifixion, that, to me, is very compelling evidence.
However, the point of this thread is that, however much these may be "proof" or "evidence" for you, they are not absolute proofs, or even evidence, for those who do not believe in the reality of Christianity.
You had to at least believe in the veracity of the Bible in order for Biblical prophecies to "seal the deal" for you regarding the Messiah.
<You had to at least believe in the veracity of the Bible in order for Biblical prophecies to "seal the deal" for you regarding the Messiah.>
This isn’t true. I was still unsettled about the divinity of Christ when I started reading the Bible and looking into the prophecies (specifically the Messianic prophecies.)
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Originally posted by @romans1009Again, to you. for you, not for everybody.
Proof and evidence are two different things. For me, fulfilled prophecies are very strong evidence. If prophets write 500 to 700 years ahead of time where the Messiah will be born, His lineage, His purpose on earth, the events surrounding His crucifixion, that, to me, is very compelling evidence.
Don't get me wrong. The prophecies are compelling evidence for me, too.
But again, for me, not for everybody.
Originally posted by @romans1009"Unsettled" about the divinity of Christ says nothing about your belief in the overall truth of the Bible. For you to believe the accounts of the prophecies, you must, in fact, have some positive opinion of the Bible to begin with.
<You had to at least believe in the veracity of the Bible in order for Biblical prophecies to "seal the deal" for you regarding the Messiah.>
This isn’t true. I was still unsettled about the divinity of Christ when I started reading the Bible and looking into the prophecies (specifically the Messianic prophecies.)
To those who do not believe in the Bible, any "prophecies" within are, at best, just "stories".
Originally posted by @romans1009Most people have closed minds concerning religion.
Sure, there are people who can discount strong evidence without a plausible counter explanation. Those, imo, are people who have closed minds.
Most have made their choice, and no amount of persuasion will move them. Only those who are "not sure" are open to persuasive argument.
Those who believe as well as those who do not believe.
Originally posted by @suzianneYou do know what a prophecy is, don’t you? It’s much more than a “story.” It’s a prediction of a future event. When those predicted future events come true against very long odds, that is compelling.
"Unsettled" about the divinity of Christ says nothing about your belief in the overall truth of the Bible. For you to believe the accounts of the prophecies, you must, in fact, have some positive opinion of the Bible to begin with.
To those who do not believe in the Bible, any "prophecies" within are, at best, just "stories".
Originally posted by @suzianneMany have made their choice regarding whether God exists, and, if so, which “religion” is the truth. I’m more interested in how they arrived at their decision (upon what was it based.)
Most people have closed minds concerning religion.
Most have made their choice, and no amount of persuasion will move them. Only those who are "not sure" are open to persuasive argument.
Those who believe as well as those who do not believe.
Originally posted by @romans1009Were the people who very consciously created and finessed the new literature for the post-Judaism breakaway religion/cult of personality - during the decades and centuries after Jesus's execution - aware or unaware of the prophecies?
You do know what a prophecy is, don’t you? It’s much more than a “story.” It’s a prediction of a future event. When those predicted future events come true against very long odds, that is compelling.