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Originally posted by @apathist
You said [b]" It is sheer sophistry to suggest God would force people to do things against their will."

I pointed out that the myth of the great flood proves you wrong. You respond with song and dance.[/b]
If God has appointed a time for us to die we have no say in it. We also have no say in where and when we are born. In between we get to make choices. Some of those choices may be aligned with His will and some may not. The choices we make have consequences, we have no say in what those consequences are.


Originally posted by @dj2becker
If God has appointed a time for us to die we have no say in it. We also have no say in where and when we are born. In between we get to make choices. Some of those choices may be aligned with His will and some may not. The choices we make have consequences, we have no say in what those consequences are.
Watch out Becker, you're in danger of using too much common sense. 😉


Originally posted by @josephw
Watch out Becker, you're in danger of using too much common sense. 😉
Never happen.


Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Never happen.
So you disagree that we have no choice concerning the circumstances of our birth and the time of our death? That our ability to "choose" falls between those two events?


Originally posted by @josephw
So you disagree that we have no choice concerning the circumstances of our birth and the time of our death? That our ability to "choose" falls between those two events?
What are you muttering about?

I simply said Becker using too much common sense would never happen.


Originally posted by @dj2becker
If God has appointed a time for us to die we have no say in it. We also have no say in where and when we are born. In between we get to make choices. Some of those choices may be aligned with His will and some may not. The choices we make have consequences, we have no say in what those consequences are.
So you admit you were wrong when you claimed that "It is sheer sophistry to suggest God would force people to do things against their will." No one choose to die in the great flood, but god forced them to die anyway.


Originally posted by @apathist
So you admit you were wrong when you claimed that "It is sheer sophistry to suggest God would force people to do things against their will." No one choose to die in the great flood, but god forced them to die anyway.
No I wouldn’t describe dying as ‘doing things’.


Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
What are you muttering about?

I simply said Becker using too much common sense would never happen.
Are you confused?

I didn't mutter. So you don't think what Becker said implied common sense?


Originally posted by @josephw
Are you confused?

I didn't mutter. So you don't think what Becker said implied common sense?
I didn't read what he said. I rarely do.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I didn't read what he said. I rarely do.
Afraid that some doubt may be sown in your mind about your atheism?😉


Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I didn't read what he said. I rarely do.
I give a thumbs up for honesty.

Glad I didn't post what I had originally wrote! 😉


Originally posted by @dj2becker
No I wouldn’t describe dying as ‘doing things’.
Dying is a thing, buddy. You sound stupid silly.


Originally posted by @dj2becker
Afraid that some doubt may be sown in your mind about your atheism?😉
That question exposes a rationality gap. If you want to sow doubt about the atheistic view, just come up with support for the theistic view. And that is the only way possible for you. Games don't work here.

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Originally posted by @apathist
Dying is a thing, buddy. You sound stupid silly.
The silly thing buddy is you who seems to think free will should include choosing how you die.

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Originally posted by @apathist
That question exposes a rationality gap. If you want to sow doubt about the atheistic view, just come up with support for the theistic view. And that is the only way possible for you. Games don't work here.
I don't know about you but the only game I play here is chess.