29 Nov '11 16:37>
Can some one explain to me how God allowing his only begotten son to be tortured to death absolves believers of their sins? What is the connection? Is God not bright enough to have been able to figure out a less sadistic way to accomplish the same task?
I didn't do so hot on the first go around, so I'll attempt to answer your questions in this thread.
The physical torture of the Lord Jesus Christ decidedly did not cover or make restitution for our sin. Moreover, none of the events leading up to the penultimate moment of the transmission of the sins of the world onto His body could be considered as anything other proofs of His qualifications to receive the same. I use the term 'penultimate' because even the transmission of sin did not absolve man. We knew He was able to receive the sins by virtue of His behavior and lack of subjectivity prior to the insult of the cross, but there was no way of knowing whether or not He could bear the sins once there. Following the hours of darkness and upon His emergence on the other side of that transfer, we saw the double-proof of not only His qualification but of His capacity. In a sense beyond the word's ability to convey, it was a staggering feat.
What fails most people's thinking is the grand design of God. Lucifer/Satan figured he had God beat when He committed to the creation of man, betting that if creatures of light could be swayed, how difficult could it be to sway creatures of dirt against their Creator? What was not factored into the thinking was the reality of God's plan to use the dirt like a caterpillar uses a cocoon, transferring the trespass upon Himself--- the only Person in the universe worthy or capable of handling it--- a type of God-not-being-God paradox, only to pick up the robe of deity once the task was complete.
To be sure, pain was involved, but pain wasn't the issue.
I didn't do so hot on the first go around, so I'll attempt to answer your questions in this thread.
The physical torture of the Lord Jesus Christ decidedly did not cover or make restitution for our sin. Moreover, none of the events leading up to the penultimate moment of the transmission of the sins of the world onto His body could be considered as anything other proofs of His qualifications to receive the same. I use the term 'penultimate' because even the transmission of sin did not absolve man. We knew He was able to receive the sins by virtue of His behavior and lack of subjectivity prior to the insult of the cross, but there was no way of knowing whether or not He could bear the sins once there. Following the hours of darkness and upon His emergence on the other side of that transfer, we saw the double-proof of not only His qualification but of His capacity. In a sense beyond the word's ability to convey, it was a staggering feat.
What fails most people's thinking is the grand design of God. Lucifer/Satan figured he had God beat when He committed to the creation of man, betting that if creatures of light could be swayed, how difficult could it be to sway creatures of dirt against their Creator? What was not factored into the thinking was the reality of God's plan to use the dirt like a caterpillar uses a cocoon, transferring the trespass upon Himself--- the only Person in the universe worthy or capable of handling it--- a type of God-not-being-God paradox, only to pick up the robe of deity once the task was complete.
To be sure, pain was involved, but pain wasn't the issue.