@kellyjay saidYour sacred holy, holy book reveals the nature of your god. Of course you do not own a god.
How do you know, your not the one who seeks to confirm your unsubstantiated opinions and dismiss anything that might threaten your beliefs? I have no idea what you base your opinion on when it comes to God. With respect to my god, I don't have a god, I don't own one, nor did I make one up.
@caissad4 saidSure, only God can reveal himself. Once we are dead we will know. If we do not exist after death then this life is worthless anyhow. Nothing you do will continue beyond you, at least as far as you are concerned.
Your sacred holy, holy book reveals the nature of your god. Of course you do not own a god.
@eladar saidI hope you do not do good only some hope of reward.
Sure, only God can reveal himself. Once we are dead we will know. If we do not exist after death then this life is worthless anyhow. Nothing you do will continue beyond you, at least as far as you are concerned.
Personally I like to do good and be good for its' own sake.
@caissad4 saidOf course not. Be good in your own eyes to your heart's content.
I hope you do not do good only some hope of reward.
Personally I like to do good and be good for its' own sake.
In the end your life is totally meaningless. Once you are dead it is done. Anyone you have come in contact with will be within 100 years after you die meaning even your influence will die put soon enough.
@eladar saidAnyone you have come in contact with will be within 100 years after you die meaning even your influence will die put soon enough.
In the end your life is totally meaningless. Once you are dead it is done. Anyone you have come in contact with will be within 100 years after you die meaning even your influence will die put soon enough.
Why would you set this as the criterion for whether or not life is "meaningless"?
In this context, how would you define "influence"?
@sonship
There is no record of Caesar Augustus' decree that "all the world should be enrolled" (Lk. 2:1). The Romans kept extremely detailed records of such events. Not only is Luke's census not in these records, it goes against all that we know of Roman economic history. Roman documents show that taxation was done by the various governors at the provincial level. As we shall see later, the property tax was collected on site by travelling assessors, thus making unnecessary Joseph's journey away from what little property he must have owned. Gleason Archer quotes a census expert who claims, without documentation, that "every five years the Romans enumerated citizens and their property to determine their liabilities. This practice was extended to include the entire Roman Empire in 5 B.C.E."1 This goes against the fourteen-year cycle which Archer himself uses to argue that Quirinius was pulled from his busy duties in Asia Minor to do a Syrian census in 7 B.C.E., fourteen years earlier than the one recorded in Josephus and Acts 5:37.
https://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/census.htm
@eladar saidMy, my, we are getting defensive, aren't we? A word to the wise; if you have to resort to insults then your argument is lost.
I am denying the part of science that cannot be directly observed.
You really are an arrogant misled fool. But hey as l9ng as the rest of your skinhead buddies agree with you your circular reasoning based on assumption must surely appear absolute truth.
By the way, all of science can be observed, science is all about observation. Also by the way, I actually, I have quite long hair. (I observed this in the mirror this morning).
@eladar saidWell, in the first place I would have thought it was fairly obvious that I'm not given to thinking that Adam was created, or even that Adam existed as the first, fully formed human being, so you'd better ask someone who is.
No questions on that.
One question for you on a different track...
If Adam was created, how old would he have appeared 1 min after he was created?
If your god sort of popped him onto the earth as a new - born baby then he probably wouldn't have survived, notwithstanding divine intervention, so maybe he was made as an adult, so one minute later he would have looked one minute older than he had a minute before. That's about the best I can do to answer your hypothetical and rather strange question. What does your bible have to say on the subject?
Anyway the arrival of 'Adam' has never been observed, so I assume you give the story no credence.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThere are written records, scripture. I find it laughable you can take the word of people as they describe what a rock was millions of years ago and scripture you doubt.
@sonship
There is no record of Caesar Augustus' decree that "all the world should be enrolled" (Lk. 2:1). The Romans kept extremely detailed records of such events. Not only is Luke's census not in these records, it goes against all that we know of Roman economic history. Roman documents show that taxation was done by the various governors at the provincial leve ...[text shortened]... an the one recorded in Josephus and Acts 5:37.
https://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/census.htm
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidYOU ARE TAKING MAN'S WORDS, about rocks, that they write about.
Rocks are tangible evidence, uncorrupted by man.
Scripture,...not so much.
Man is corrupt, than no matter what you are still dealing with man.
You believe some religious people are corrupt and those in science are above that?
@kellyjay saidYou should look at some videos from Aron Ra . You should also see his debates with Christians . The debate with Ken Hovind is almost too funny.
YOU ARE TAKING MAN'S WORDS, about rocks, that they write about.
Man is corrupt, than no matter what you are still dealing with man.
You believe some religious people are corrupt and those in science are above that?
[youtube] -DkK15_YZRs [/youtube]
@indonesia-phil saidIf you saw an adult, then how long would you assume he had been alive?
Well, in the first place I would have thought it was fairly obvious that I'm not given to thinking that Adam was created, or even that Adam existed as the first, fully formed human being, so you'd better ask someone who is.
If your god sort of popped him onto the earth as a new - born baby then he probably wouldn't have survived, notwithstanding divine intervention ...[text shortened]...
Anyway the arrival of 'Adam' has never been observed, so I assume you give the story no credence.
At least 16 years?